2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMillennials Really Want Clinton To Pick Elizabeth Warren For VP
"Kids today, with their spicy memes and their complicated shoes, what do they even want?
Apparently, what they want is for 2016 Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to pick Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D - Mass.) as her vice presidential running mate.
According to a survey of 2,500 users of the anonymous messaging service Yik Yak, which boasts a user base that is comprised of 98 percent millennials, they overwhelmingly favor Clinton tapping the consumer-advocate-turned-progressive-lawmaker for VP. Seventy-four percent of respondents wanted Clinton to pick Warren. Only 9 percent favored Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), 8 percent tapped U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro, 6 percent liked Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), and 3 percent wanted Labor Secretary Tom Perez.
A Yik Yak spokesperson told the Daily Dot this is the first time the service has polled on Warren, so it's difficult to get a sense if Warren's stock is rising overall in terms of the Democratic veepstakes. However, it's notable that Warren has a significantly larger share of support on the Democratic side than any single candidate on the GOP end.
When it comes to Donald Trump's running mate, 55 percent of respondents support unexpectedly woke former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and 27 percent backed New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Indiana Gov. Mike Pence is strongly rumored to be the favorite for actually getting the nod.
The Yik Yak survey found 48 percent of self-identified supporters of Clinton's former rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders, said they're aligning with third-party options like Johnson or Green Party candidate Dr. Jill Stein. Thirty-nine percent said they would support Clinton, and 13 percent indicated they would hop aboard the Trump train.
Millennials may have overtaken Baby Boomers as the single largest share of the electorate earlier this year, but whether they'll play a decisive role in November remains to be seen."
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http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/elizabeth-warren-vp-yik-yak-survey/
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Although I am kind of torn because I want her in the Senate also. I would be happy with Perez, Booker, and maybe Castro as well. Not as thrilled about Kaine or Vilsack.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)Such a powerful ticket. Such powerful brains. And such a powerful message.
Talk about activating the electorate.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Enough of the playground level "excitement" factor nonsense. This isn't about trying to create some kind of campaign Disney Land. It's about running the most powerful national administration in Earth.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)To run the country. And with her experience in economics, she could be a valuable asset as VP as well. Lastly, winning the election is about energizing people to vote for you. It's not only a resume contest.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)into the presidency because of her intellect and competence, far, far, far more than, say, Jeb Bush, who by resume would be better qualified but actually is imo far, far, far less.
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msongs
(67,413 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I was just curious..
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)and want EW ? That's me
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)perky, feisty little thing that you apparently are.
People are just plain living longer and living well and relevantly, and for better and worse we are part of a real demographic power carryover to later years. The fondness of marketers for concentrating commercials, etc., on young people masks that even more than the size of the millennial generation offsets it.
Someday we'll inevitably have the first president in his or her 80s. The irrelevance of Sanders' age to those he inspired of all ages was enlightening, Justice Ginsberg is adjusting people to the idea that she isn't ready to retire or planning to drop dead just because she's 83, and then, of course, there's the tremendous advantage anywhere from 20-60 years in power can give some over young relative newcomers.
And no doubt instead of just blowbacks against too much conservatism or liberalism, someday we'll have age blowbacks as well, too much youth, too much old fartism.
Just babbling on, but you got me thinking about it. I'm an oldie too even if I am a generation behind you.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I wouldn't expect Warren to get very much free-rein in the Clinton administration, and so I wouldn't expect Warren to be broadly effective in pushing much in the way of progressive policy.
We know from HRC's comments she intends Bill to be important to decision making about the economy. Most of Warren's progressive notions about consumer/financial/trade protections will crash into Bill's economic opinions. She'll be neutralized from the start. Which is exactyly how Wall St probably prefers her.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Brain dead? Or just kept drugged up so she'll tolerate a bridle and reins?
I think you haven't thought this through. We're not discussing a kidnapping here.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)They are very rarely given opportunity to command a portfolio of political significance.
During campaigns they have been used to try to create appeal to a demographic and geographic region. Sometimes it has been suggested that they can be the partisan bulldog that acting presidential doesn't allow. But any honest look back over the post WW I (one, not a mistake) era suggest that's often not been true, and VP candidates don't, by design or happenstance, out shine the boss.
Once the campaign is over, they mostly are expected to not make significant news, certainly few make more news than the first spouse and in particular VPs seem to steer a course designed to not surprise POTUS and chief political aides with other than comments of utterly complete loyalty and full support
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)true for Republicans still, Cheney's power grabs being something else. Many conservatives tend to authoritarianism and don't share power well.
What you have heard, however, has not been true for Democratic administrations for a long time and is becoming less so all the time. It all started to change last century when presidents started choosing their own VPs instead of having them chosen for them. Liberals tend to be very different and are much more comfortable delegating power to subordinates and working with them in fairly equal relationships.
Now, again, do you really imagine Warren would agree to give up her position of power to attend memorials and lay flowers on graves? She would have to have more power to accomplish what she wanted to or she would not agree. And presidents can allocate as much of their own power to a VP as they choose.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)since 1918. Or name significant domestic or foreign policy initiatives that originated with a VP and were carried forward to fruition by those VPs. I think you'll find not very much.
I cannot say what Warren will or won't do.
But many vps have, in fact, chosen to be mostly off-stage and doing mostly ceremonial stuff.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Have a nice evening.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Are the ACA and the TPP not supposed to be legislative legacies of the current president?
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Not a particular subset of age.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Rule of thumb.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)I thought they wanted Bernie?