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This poor lady can't even speak with the teleprompter's help. (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2016 OP
Actually, I think she is doing fine, for a trump.... pangaia Jul 2016 #1
She did fine. 840high Jul 2016 #41
She did great--because she copied Michelle Obama's speech nearly word-for-word. MADem Jul 2016 #63
Yeah, I saw that. LOL!! pangaia Jul 2016 #86
I know when I introduce my husband... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2
Well, vegetarian x Jul 2016 #21
Apparently not Johnson Haveadream Jul 2016 #27
You can call me Johnson..... bettyellen Jul 2016 #73
Baaaa bop bop... bop.... ..baaaaaa bop bop... bop. pangaia Jul 2016 #87
LOL... Stellar Jul 2016 #99
It's all coming back to me! bettyellen Jul 2016 #109
She is doing fine. femmocrat Jul 2016 #3
+1 agreed. She came off as sweet tbh riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #25
I agree Greywing Jul 2016 #31
Another site said she has been practicing for 6 weeks womanofthehills Jul 2016 #69
I agree PatSeg Jul 2016 #105
She was an underwear model... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #4
That's terribly sexist zenabby Jul 2016 #32
Its only the truth. That doesn't make it sexist. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #52
Nope. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #58
You make me ashamed to be here. 840high Jul 2016 #42
Feel free to ignore. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #59
Learn something: elleng Jul 2016 #55
Motivated underwear model tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #60
How does that article make her anything but an underwear model who married rich? Nevernose Jul 2016 #81
I'm kinda rooting for her. annavictorious Jul 2016 #5
Yeah TeddyR Jul 2016 #11
She did. Very sweet. 840high Jul 2016 #43
How is it her accent... SticksnStones Jul 2016 #6
she's white, so she's a 'good immigrant' n/t Blaukraut Jul 2016 #8
This! NWCorona Jul 2016 #12
She became a US citizen. 840high Jul 2016 #45
No. It had nothing to do with being legal. It has, however, EVERYTHING to do with being white. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #75
And attractive. That is a big deal to most of Trump's (male) base. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #76
Very true! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #77
Also EVERYTHING to do with few Slovenians. Hortensis Jul 2016 #85
She's white and she's HIS immigrant. pangaia Jul 2016 #89
She's Trump's wife. Arkana Jul 2016 #9
I'll tell you. RandySF Jul 2016 #16
She has a heavy accent and is white, she should be shunned and maligned, or maybe I interpreted .. slipslidingaway Jul 2016 #57
I wonder how many members on DU 840high Jul 2016 #64
But you are good, you are white, even if you have an accent. I hate the racial divide that has slipslidingaway Jul 2016 #72
I hate the divide, too. 840high Jul 2016 #82
I am white and have an accent also.. North Jersey. pangaia Jul 2016 #90
Talking about working hard... Satch59 Jul 2016 #7
We were thinking the same thing. Although... eastwestdem Jul 2016 #26
Ann Landers said women who marry for money earn every penny. n/t Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #61
She's a believer in the old saying COLGATE4 Jul 2016 #103
Let's be a little kind. This isn't her first language. NWCorona Jul 2016 #10
be a little kind???? NO WAY. She grew up in a COMMUNIST HOUSEHOLD. Card. Carrying. Communist. trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #33
And? This isn't the 50's anymore. Besides, I don't blame for the sins of the Father NWCorona Jul 2016 #36
the forst 17 years of her life. SHE WAS PROBABLY BRAINWASHED. Maybe she still believes in communis trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #38
Ugh. I grew up in a Rethug fundy family riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #40
Oh for heave's sake...... 840high Jul 2016 #46
I visited COMMUNIST Budapest in 1981 !!!!!!! pangaia Jul 2016 #91
Whenever I hear her annavictorious Jul 2016 #13
I get alergic smelling hay. El Supremo Jul 2016 #28
I had that very thought! missingthebigdog Jul 2016 #30
She doesn't have facial expressions. SHe has had work done to make sure of it. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #78
The audience thinks Slovenia is in Mexico too uponit7771 Jul 2016 #14
She's his third wife... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #15
Better not to bring loyalty up. 840high Jul 2016 #47
And why wouldn't I? tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #56
One marriage vs three marriages. Your narratives are becoming tediously obvious. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #94
I really hope Melania has an attractive pool boy to mess around with. sarae Jul 2016 #17
I hope she has a few. She deserves it. grossproffit Jul 2016 #22
Why don't I believe her when she says Trump will work for us? n/t Blaukraut Jul 2016 #18
So hard to watch tho NWCorona Jul 2016 #19
I don't think she even knows what she's saying. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #20
You reckon it's spelled out phonetically? eom Blanks Jul 2016 #34
I remember when she had a jewelry line on QVC. She was elegant. That's all I got. grossproffit Jul 2016 #24
She sounds like the scammers who phone me telling me my computer has a virus. trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #23
Let me put it this way: she speaks more languages than I do. I always give props for that.... Hekate Jul 2016 #29
She is doing a remarkable job PatSeg Jul 2016 #35
CNN claimed she has been working with a speech writer for 5 or 6 weeks womanofthehills Jul 2016 #70
I believe it PatSeg Jul 2016 #71
Agreed. 840high Jul 2016 #48
She plagiarizes more languages than I do!! MADem Jul 2016 #65
There is that! How quickly news develops! Hekate Jul 2016 #66
Except for the part written by Rick Astley's song writer... csziggy Jul 2016 #74
That is too funny! nt MADem Jul 2016 #84
hahahahahahahaha workinclasszero Jul 2016 #102
How can someone be here 20 years and not speak English? Especially Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #37
You sound bigoted and she did well nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #53
Which part? The plagarizing, or the Rickroll? nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #80
what's a rickroll ? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #96
lmgtfy.com nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author msanthrope Jul 2016 #100
She DOES speak English. pangaia Jul 2016 #92
Finally figured it out - it is the pronunciation of "i's" as "e's" - which Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #97
The pressure on Melania must be enormous. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #39
TBH, I thought she came across as a class act riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #44
I found her sweet and beautiful. 840high Jul 2016 #49
Honestly, she's been a packaged product her whole.life riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #50
She is NOT gorgeous to me. pangaia Jul 2016 #93
And that matters more than being real, honest or accomplished, lol. bettyellen Jul 2016 #88
Plagiarism? MADem Jul 2016 #67
hmm. they said she used Reagan speechwriters - but there's no way in Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #98
I did not think that Melania came across as genuine. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #107
It's so funny how I thought the same thing... liberalmuse Jul 2016 #51
She spoke decently. elleng Jul 2016 #54
Of course she did--she was copying a speech by Michelle Obama, word for word!!! MADem Jul 2016 #68
Yes, pretty damned 'surprising,' I guess. elleng Jul 2016 #110
You miss Mrs. Obama because Melania was PLAGIARIZING her!!!! LOL!!! MADem Jul 2016 #62
But she sure can give a great endorsement of Obama values. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #79
I'll give her a pass. She obviously respected Michelle's writing George Eliot Jul 2016 #83
I'd rationalize it such too if my bias demanded as much. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #95
What bias? George Eliot Jul 2016 #111
Get a rope. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2016 #104
Plagiarism is made worse by Mr & Mrs Trump's denial Sheepshank Jul 2016 #106
The icing on the cake is the justification that Melania cheated and it's HILLARY's FAULT!! MADem Jul 2016 #108

MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. She did great--because she copied Michelle Obama's speech nearly word-for-word.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jul 2016

It's THE STORY of the hour--turn on MSNBC.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
105. I agree
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jul 2016

I was surprised at how poised and confident she came across. I couldn't have done as well and English is my first and only language.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
58. Nope.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:16 AM
Jul 2016

She owns her history and I don't appreciate a former underwear model, mistress, and pampered princess with unlimited help waxing poetic about hard work.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
60. Motivated underwear model
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jul 2016

comes to America and marries rich. Pretty much sums up what I thought of her. She's a Slovenian Ann Romney.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
81. How does that article make her anything but an underwear model who married rich?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jul 2016

Interesting details about her parents, but other than "enjoyed art class" and "dropped out of college," how is Melania Trump anything but a model who married rich?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
85. Also EVERYTHING to do with few Slovenians.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 05:56 AM
Jul 2016

If there were a whole neighborhood of those Slovenians in town (who come take our jobs, drive up our school taxes, can't even go to the park without seeing them everywhere, and they refuse to speak English, it makes me so mad every time I go to the store), that'd be a real problem.

Also, generally speaking, conservatives tend to admire economic success, and this immigrant has that.

RandySF

(59,167 posts)
16. I'll tell you.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jul 2016

When I was a kind growing up in suburban Detroit, every other household had an immigrant family from all over Europe. The beloved neighbor was 'grandma', a dear old lady from Russian who couldn't speak a word of English. But they were WHITE Europeans. That's the difference.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
57. She has a heavy accent and is white, she should be shunned and maligned, or maybe I interpreted ..
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jul 2016

your complaints in error?

IMO we really need to stop pointing to someone's race as a reason to dismiss someone.











slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
72. But you are good, you are white, even if you have an accent. I hate the racial divide that has
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jul 2016

crept into DU over the last couple of years.

When the 'old white men' were told to sit down and basically fade away and those ideas were defended here on DU it was not a good day.

You cannot begin to heal a racial divide by demeaning other people/races.





Satch59

(1,353 posts)
7. Talking about working hard...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jul 2016

In fashion and being a model... And then marry a billionaire...tough work if you get it...

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
26. We were thinking the same thing. Although...
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jul 2016

it can't be easy being married to an egotistical maniac while you wait to outlive him.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
103. She's a believer in the old saying
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jul 2016

"You can marry more money in 15 minutes than you can earn in a lifetime".

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
10. Let's be a little kind. This isn't her first language.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jul 2016

We are spoiled with Michelle and she will definitely be missed!

trueblue2007

(17,237 posts)
33. be a little kind???? NO WAY. She grew up in a COMMUNIST HOUSEHOLD. Card. Carrying. Communist.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jul 2016

Melania's father was a Communist.
Her father, Viktor Knavs, who managed car and motorcycle dealerships for a state-owned vehicle manufacturer,[8][7] and was a member of the Slovenian Communist Party, came from the nearby town of Radeče. Her mother, Amalija (Ulčnik),[7] came from the village of Raka[9] and was a patternmaker at the children's clothing manufacturer Jutranjka in Sevnica.[7][10] She has an older sister, Ines,[11] and an older half-brother, whom she has never met,[12] from her father's previous relationship.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump

SO SHE GREW UP IN A COMMUNIST HOUSEHOLD. Question: what percentage of Trump's supporters know about this?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
40. Ugh. I grew up in a Rethug fundy family
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jul 2016

I'm now 180 degrees different as an adult.

Frankly, as Melania has embraced the West's #1 capitalist brand - Trump - I'd say the odds that she's a secret Commie are zero.

Your projection really sucks.



El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
28. I get alergic smelling hay.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jul 2016

I just adore a penthouse view.
Dah-ling I love you but give me Park Avenue.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
94. One marriage vs three marriages. Your narratives are becoming tediously obvious.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jul 2016

One marriage vs three marriages. Your narratives are becoming tediously obvious.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
17. I really hope Melania has an attractive pool boy to mess around with.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jul 2016

I can't imagine having to pretend to enjoy sex with the Orange Fuhrer.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
29. Let me put it this way: she speaks more languages than I do. I always give props for that....
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jul 2016

I managed to flub every language class I was ever forced to take and I'm not proud of that. If my eventual MA/PhD course 20 years later hadn't eliminated the requirement for written fluency in two languages, I never would have been able to do it.

I may not like Melania or believe a word she says, and I think she has terrible taste in men, but I will never criticize her public speaking abilities.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
35. She is doing a remarkable job
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jul 2016

She is not a professional speaker, but she comes across as very confident and poised. Too bad she has terrible taste in men.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
71. I believe it
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jul 2016

That kind of presentation does not come easily or naturally for most people. Too bad they couldn't have worked 5 or 6 weeks on the damn speech though! Can't believe the speechwriter(s) plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech. This story is going to plague the convention for at least a couple of days.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. She plagiarizes more languages than I do!!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jul 2016

And she claims that SHE wrote it....but it was, word for word, a speech by Michelle Obama.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. How can someone be here 20 years and not speak English? Especially
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jul 2016

someone who is so privileged - someone who's husband could have hired the finest tutors in the world? Just like Charo and that Modern Family chick.

Oh lordy, did that all sound bigoted? Hope not.

Response to msanthrope (Reply #80)

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
39. The pressure on Melania must be enormous.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jul 2016

She'd better do well or else The Donald will tell her "You're fired!"

I would imagine that living with him is not always lollipops and sunshine.

That said, I will miss Michelle Obama's class. Some have it; some don't. And it's not something that can be bought.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
50. Honestly, she's been a packaged product her whole.life
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jul 2016

Clearly she's never been prepped for anything like.this role.

I mean how can you ignore that she's gorgeous. We know that .

Is she intelligent? Interesting? First lady material? None of those questions were answered tonight.

But she did illuminate a lot about herself tonight .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
67. Plagiarism?
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:36 AM
Jul 2016

She copied a speech by Michelle Obama, word for word. She didn't say "My husband, Barack" she said "My husband Donald" but other than that she copied Michelle Obama.

And she has been caught.


She told Matt Lauer that she wrote the speech--but already the media is hollering for him to fire the actual speechwriter who wrote this.

Wouldn't it be funny if one of his shitty little KIDS helped him with it? Maybe that's how they got through private school? LOL!!!!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
98. hmm. they said she used Reagan speechwriters - but there's no way in
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jul 2016

hell that they all didn't review it. As for Trump - he's much too intellectually lazy to know the words had been said before.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
107. I did not think that Melania came across as genuine.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jul 2016

The speech was very scripted in my opinion, and I felt she was doing as she was told, reading the speech, and looking beautiful. That's not classy behavior to me.

My opinion was actually formed PRIOR TO learning of the words having been taken from Michelle Obama's speech.

Now, Melania owes Michelle an apology. THAT would be class.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
51. It's so funny how I thought the same thing...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jul 2016

little did we know it was because she "liberally borrowed" from Michelle Obama's speeches!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. Of course she did--she was copying a speech by Michelle Obama, word for word!!!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jul 2016

I thought Michelle delivered it better!!

This is worse than the Neil Kinnock speech that Biden plagiarized--it's ghastly!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
62. You miss Mrs. Obama because Melania was PLAGIARIZING her!!!! LOL!!!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jul 2016

They're saying she got "fucked over" by the speechwriters....

But she said she wrote it herself....

Whassup widat?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
79. But she sure can give a great endorsement of Obama values.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jul 2016


Nicole Neroulias ?@BeliefBeat 1 minute ago
"Never go with a hippie to a second location." #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes

George Eliot

(701 posts)
83. I'll give her a pass. She obviously respected Michelle's writing
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:12 AM
Jul 2016

Not a lawyer or even professional. Multilingual but not natural or perhaps comfortable with English. I think we can win without trashing Milania. I'd say she gave Mrs. Obama a high compliment.

She plagiarized and for me that's the end of it. She's not running for president.

Also, there was a lot more to the speech than those few words. She obviously thought they were important words

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
95. I'd rationalize it such too if my bias demanded as much.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jul 2016

I'd rationalize it such too if my bias demanded as much. The whole, "it was just a few words, and there was more to than that" narrative is becoming rather bemusing.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,193 posts)
104. Get a rope.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

Seriously, some of the responses here sound as rabid as anything the TrumpNuts could come up with. But I promise I'll remember to look closely at the ballot this fall to see if she's one of the choices.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
106. Plagiarism is made worse by Mr & Mrs Trump's denial
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jul 2016

...stating that she simply used everyday words other people use. That any similarity to Michelle's speech was a coincidence.

Melania tried to take credit for the speech with Matt Laurer before it was given, and in her rush to take credit where non was earned, she tainted herself. She has learned a few things from Trump, it appears.

I will admit she was posed, and pretty, and got her nerves under control to deliver the speech that was partially plagiarized.

ps.. Not only did she take credit for writing the speech, but she got lots of compliments for using the words of Michelle Obama. Both Trumps are being called out for plagiarizing the words of the wife of the one person in the world that Donald hates almost more than Hillary. Isn't that ironically delicious?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
108. The icing on the cake is the justification that Melania cheated and it's HILLARY's FAULT!!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jul 2016

You just can't make this shit up. Some idiot was saying that on CNN.

I think she probably took a chill pill before going out there, and read the teleprompter.

The words were good, because they are words that Michelle used--about her husband.

Those idiots in that arena were cheering the words of a black woman from Chicago, talking about the values she and her black, Kenyan, No-Birth-Certificate (this is snark, people--you have to point that out nowadays) HUSBAND, who happens to be the POTUS they revile, share! And THAT is the part of this that is most delicious--seeing the mouth breathing Republicans, taking a blind taste test, in essence, and preferring the Pepsi over the Coke!

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