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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:08 PM Jul 2016

One thing to learn from how they ran things in Cleveland:

It is NOT cool to record the votes of entire state delegations as going to the nominee in the roll call, despite the actual vote breakdown in each delegation.

Trump did himself nothing but damage in erasing the votes of non-Trump delegates.

I'm going to assume we WON'T repeat his mistake in Philly.

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One thing to learn from how they ran things in Cleveland: (Original Post) Ken Burch Jul 2016 OP
If delegates are released, no prob bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #1
It's not about the candidate. It's about treating the delegates with respect. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #2
Yes, everyone should be treated well bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #3
I was disappointed in 2008 when Hillary interrupted the roll call annavictorious Jul 2016 #4
If Bernie releases his delegates, that's one thing. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #5
Bernie should release his delegates. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #8
Sanders should release his delegates Codeine Jul 2016 #6
If Bernie should call for nomination by affirmation. as Hillary did. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #7

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
1. If delegates are released, no prob
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jul 2016

If a candidate withdraws and releases her or his delegates, as is the norm, then there is nothing wrong with an entire state's delegation being counted for the winning nominee.

If the losing candidates can count, they know better than to demand a delegate by delegate count, if in the end it just means that their loss will be shouted from the hills.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. It's not about the candidate. It's about treating the delegates with respect.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jul 2016

A lot of people are spending money they don't have to get to Philly to cast their ballot for the candidate they worked for.

It's hugely important to let them do so.

If the nomination is already decided, there's no reason not to be big about it.

And it will impress the voters if every delegate in Philly is treated well.

Nothing is harmed, good will is demonstrated, and the odds of victory are greatly improved.

It's part of the process of unification.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
3. Yes, everyone should be treated well
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jul 2016

The process of releasing one's delegates prior to a convention is one mechanism by which the animosity between a party's candidates is alleviated, though. You know, regular normal human kind behavior, signalling good intentions rather than threats of disruption.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
4. I was disappointed in 2008 when Hillary interrupted the roll call
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

to release her delegates and nominate Obama by acclamation.

She's a much bigger person than I could have been at that moment.

I hope Bill is the one puts her over the top.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. If Bernie releases his delegates, that's one thing.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jul 2016

I'm just saying let's build unity through respect.

Trump treated the non-Trump delegates like shit(even some Trump delegates didn't like what he did there).

His decision to do that is probably at least half the reason Cruz refused to endorse him in his convention speech.

It left a bitter taste in a lot of people's mouths there that never needed to be left.

Let's be better than that.

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