Kaine ain't one.

Nominating a liberal with a track record of being a liberal...now, that would mean something.

The one who wasn't a Democrat until last year, or the one who used to be a Republican until she was well into adulthood? Or maybe the cabinet secretary who supports TPP?

Without question. Her voting record and policy positions show as much. Now, she hasn't been hermetically sealed off from changes in America since the 1960s, which is why her liberalism includes the majority and not just a self-entitled minority looking to return to a past when they alone reaped the benefits of the capitalist empire.

More importantly, she has actually accomplished things for real people. Talk without accomplishment is meaningless. I've been talking to myself for fifty years. So what? Many of her are in the same position, only they place greater value on talk than improving the lives of actual people.

She went to bat for universal healthcare over 20 years ago, helped bright about health coverage for children through S-Chip. That is a real accomplishment. Some insist that doesn't matter because it wasn't single payer, as though those children's lives matter less than how health insurance is funded.

It goes on and on. The bottom line is what her critics say about her bears little relation to her actual record.

in my book.

on the emails issue. He's had his own problems with that.

Here we go !

is her prerogative.

but the message being sent is that, as a Democratic progressive,
I am NOT needed.

bad pick. Kaine is a boring centrist who adds little to the ticket.
About as bad as Lieberman in 2000.

We have experience with how well a double-dose of "meh" turns out.

Many great choices! Wonderful problem!

This is terrible strategy.

I've said before its a turnout election. Although Kaine's not Hispanic. His ability to communicate to that population is an asset.

Dealt a pretty tough hand I think.

problems in the Middle East all go away.

A negative outcome in such situations may be a given regardless of your strategy.

marriage as being reserved for 'one man and one woman only' and he did so after having promised to veto it. This is just one of his many, many anti gay acts of aggression and deception.

The enthusiasm I see for him is utterly depressing.

I see you were willing to overlook that even though anyone else showing any kind of enthusiasm for the pope you were after in half a heartbeat. You even convinced me I was wrong about the pope, and you were right.

So I find myself wondering, why the special dispensation for Sanders but not for Kaine.

for it. I am interested in hearing his response.

Any evidence?

You think all that's needed to secure the Hispanic and Latino votes is to speak Spanish?

the seat will take place in 2017, not 2018, because Virginia holds statewide elections in odd-numbered years.

Va statewide races in odd years (the year after Presidential elections) are for Gov. Lt. Gov. and Attorney General.

Is this confirmed?

... she's veering back to the right.

Sad. So sad.

if that is the final choice.

"We don't have a clue."

VP pick, just like they did in 2008 when Obama picked Biden who had engineered the confirmation of Clarence Thomas and had voted for the Iraq war.

He wasn't my first pick, but I will enthusiastically support the ticket. As any sane person will, after the Nuremberg rallies in Cleveland.

... into this. Her decision will be based on who's qualified, and who she'll work well with. By default, no matter who she chooses, it will be the right choice ... because it's HER choice.

I'm looking forwarding to finding out who it is! It's very exciting!

If it's Warren, then the "Warren-or-Bust" crowd will be happy and will (hopefully) stop with their gloomy-gus posts. If it's not Warren, then they'll need to stop anyway.

Either way, no matter who the choice may be, we will have reached yet another milestone that emphasizes that the PRIMARY IS OVER.



#ITrustHillary

#FeelTheUnityEventually

#ImWithHer

They stated they wanted Kaine. They got what they wanted.

Basically Wall Street was Kaine or bust.....

or did you just pull this out of the cleft in your backside?

Just 'reportedly' and 'from who I've spoken to'.

Yeah. Come back when you have more proof than that.

Seriously. Too many main stream sources are making these statements for it too be a coincidence.

And it's not like it's a secret that Warren is telling everyone the game is rigged while Third Way members declare war on her:

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/11/third_way_dems_new_war_on_elizabeth_warren_progressives_why_their_centrist_pitch_is_a_political_loser/

So if you don't want to believe that Wall Street banks that routinely violate laws. rig markets, and bilk their customers would do such a thing by all means ignore all the articles that are reporting what these Wall Street donors are saying.

Kaine is easy for Clinton to mold and somebody who will have no problem being 2nd team and him as VP will also move Clinton back towards center. Going to be an exciting 4 months

1) This article links to the WSJ for the "reports" and the reports are "people close to Clinton think she'll pick him. He might be the pick, but not done yet.

2) The entire job of the VP in this campaign will be to get down in the mud so HRC doesn't have to. Keep HRC positive and let the VP respond to all of Trump's BS. And during the presidency, HRC is a policy wonk. Her opinion is what matters. His policy stances matter as much as Biden's have, which means not at all. Both HRC (and Obama) are intelligent and opinionated. The only time the VP's policies matter is when you have a lazy, no nothing like W in there.

Clinton was not my first pick, but I have been ferocious in my support when it became apparent that Sanders was out of the running. When she appeared to seriously consider progressives, I was heartened, hopeful. I will continue to support her election, but now my enthusiasm has taken a direct hit.

"Kaine signed two letters on Monday urging federal regulators to go easy on banks ― one to help big banks dodge risk management rules, and another to help small banks avoid consumer
protection standards."

"Kaine, by contrast, is setting himself up as a figure willing to do battle with the progressive wing of the party. He has championed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal that both Sanders and Warren oppose, and he is now publicly siding with bank deregulation advocates at the height of Clinton’s veepstakes."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-clinton-vp_us_578fc8e3e4b0bdddc4d2c86c

I hope you're being purposely extreme here if picking a mainstream Democrat as her running-mate makes you weep. If not, get a fucking grip.

that rolled down my face. I am a 61-year old who has been a participatory, activist Democrat for nearly 50 years. I am an absolute Liberal. I have never said a bad thing on this site or any other about Hillary Clinton. I have a grip. If she does choose Kaine, she is moving to the center-right after proclaiming to be progressive. That is only going to help her lose, just like such behavior has made Democrats lose for years.

I had an honest reaction to a genuine disappointment. I do not weep often.

The Clinton campaign is saying the decision is not final. I can only hope that they are just putting the feelers out, but it appears they may be choosing to ignore the antipathy of the Progressive wing of the Democratic party. Based on your response, perhaps you do not count yourself among that group. I am sorry you felt the need to respond in such a hostile manner.

Please take a break if Hillary picking Kaine, who's about as mainstream as a Democrat can get, makes you openly cry like that.

He is not the VP candidate yet. That he is a mainstream Democrat does nothing to help her get elected, except perhaps bolstering Virginia. It could be a detriment and is such with Progressives.

It is noted that you did not respond pro or con to his aggressive support for bank deregulation or fast tracking the TPP. You only take issue with how I feel. Interesting.

We worked too hard to go backward now.

in Kaine as her choice....anyone more progressive, preferably EW...Please!

Good luck - won't be fun at all to say we told you so...

I am afraid the Trump train is filling a long emerging vacuum in American politics and deflating all opposition.
We Democrats are in deep doodoo.
Next week better light a fire.

Just as I expected. Way to reinforce the cynicism of a large group of people, SOS Clinton.

Vilsack would be my first choice.
Booker 2nd - but there's no way. He was at Union Station and at a shoe store last night - although this morning he posted an RFK and Roosevelt quote.

Offline - IRL - we are all on egg shells at my company in NJ this morning - hoping its NOT Booker. He's much beloved in NJ. We don't want to lose him.

Probably can tell by the social networking stalking that takes place around here!

We should win Virginia easily without him. Not even the most loony Republican who's a government worker in NoVa would be dumb enough to vote for a private sector genocide artist like Trump.