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2016 Postmortem

pnwmom

(108,999 posts) Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:53 PM Jul 2016

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Back in 2008, Joe Biden was NOT my preferred choice for V.P. Was he yours?

I was hoping he'd choose Hillary. I thought they'd make a good team.

Biden had diarrhea of the mouth sometimes, and I hated the way he handled the Anita Hill hearings. Truthfully, I hadn't yet been able to forgive him for that.

And yet what did I know? He's turned out to be a great ally for President Obama and a real asset as V.P.

That's why I trust Hillary to make the right decision FOR HER. She's been considering a number of excellent choices, but she's the one who will have to work closely with this person for, hopefully, the next eight years.

So I'm going to trust that she knows more than I do about what she needs and who can do the job.

She's got this.

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Back in 2008, Joe Biden was NOT my preferred choice for V.P. Was he yours? (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2016 OP

I love him as VP metroins Jul 2016 #1

I was a young woman dealing with my own issues of workplace harassment when the Anita Hill pnwmom Jul 2016 #9

Even though she is 61 LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #14

I learned to forgive him for that. And I forgave Hillary for her 2008 campaign. So it's all good. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #15

Excellent point. 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #2

I know. Did you see the car pool karaoke video with Michelle? It's making me miss her already. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #4

I did. It was delightful. 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #17

I was happy with him kwolf68 Jul 2016 #3

Yes, I agree! I trust the nominee to pick her running mate! Her Sister Jul 2016 #5

No (nt) bigwillq Jul 2016 #6

There were plenty of people on the boards that tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #7

I always liked Joe Biden tawadi Jul 2016 #8

Did you like how he let Clarence Thomas off the hook and dismissed Anita Hill's other witnesses pnwmom Jul 2016 #11

Yes. Mz Pip Jul 2016 #10

I always loved Joe! Beaverhausen Jul 2016 #12

I was thrilled with Biden. And I loathed Hillary back then. I'll be happy with whomever she chooses. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #13

Yep. PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #16

Actually, yes. He was my first choice. woolldog Jul 2016 #18

nope ibegurpard Jul 2016 #19

His very aggressive anti gay stance lasted until the bitter end, he was against civil unions Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #20

Biden was my pick. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #21

metroins

(2,550 posts)

1. I love him as VP

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:57 PM

Jul 2016

Not sure what I remember in 2008 of my feelings.

Probably that Delaware was a small state.

I wasn't into politics back then.

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)

9. I was a young woman dealing with my own issues of workplace harassment when the Anita Hill

Reply to metroins (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:02 PM

Jul 2016

hearings happened, and suddenly there was a name for what happened to almost every woman, at some point or other.

And Joe failed miserably to defend her. So did all the other men on the Committee.

So I didn't have the greatest feelings about him as VP but, again, I was wrong. Obama was right.

And that's why I think we should trust Hillary on this. She knows all these people better than we do, and she knows what she needs.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)

14. Even though she is 61

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:06 PM

Jul 2016

I would absolutely love it if Hillary nominated her for the Supreme Court.

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

15. I learned to forgive him for that. And I forgave Hillary for her 2008 campaign. So it's all good.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:08 PM

Jul 2016

3catwoman3

(24,054 posts)

2. Excellent point.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:57 PM

Jul 2016

She is searingly intelligent, and I think that will serve her well in this decision.

That said, I wish we could keep the 2 we have for 4 more years. Love them both.

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)

4. I know. Did you see the car pool karaoke video with Michelle? It's making me miss her already. n/t

Reply to 3catwoman3 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:59 PM

Jul 2016

3catwoman3

(24,054 posts)

17. I did. It was delightful.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:15 PM

Jul 2016

In a thread about that video, I commented that while the word awesome is so overused that it is practically meaningless, she truly is AWESOME!!!

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)

3. I was happy with him

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:57 PM

Jul 2016

No issues.

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)

5. Yes, I agree! I trust the nominee to pick her running mate!

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:00 PM

Jul 2016

Many great choices: A wonderful problem. We are lucky in our side.

Plus I trust HRC's people skills. It's one of her many strengths.

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)

6. No (nt)

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:00 PM

Jul 2016

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)

7. There were plenty of people on the boards that

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:00 PM

Jul 2016

weren't happy with the pick. I was ambivalent.

Now? I LOVE HIM!!!

tawadi

(2,110 posts)

8. I always liked Joe Biden

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:01 PM

Jul 2016

And I still do

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)

11. Did you like how he let Clarence Thomas off the hook and dismissed Anita Hill's other witnesses

Reply to tawadi (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:04 PM

Jul 2016

before they could testify?

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)

10. Yes.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:03 PM

Jul 2016

He was my first choice.

Beaverhausen

(24,472 posts)

12. I always loved Joe!

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:05 PM

Jul 2016

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

13. I was thrilled with Biden. And I loathed Hillary back then. I'll be happy with whomever she chooses.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:06 PM

Jul 2016

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)

16. Yep.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:08 PM

Jul 2016

Biden was my choice. I thought he'd be an excellent VP.

I was proven correct...so Hillary should listen to me.

woolldog

(8,791 posts)

18. Actually, yes. He was my first choice.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:15 PM

Jul 2016

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)

19. nope

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:20 PM

Jul 2016

And he's done nothing to change my mind. Obama was a big disappointment though.

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

20. His very aggressive anti gay stance lasted until the bitter end, he was against civil unions

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:25 PM

Jul 2016

and the works. He's everything the Party should be apologizing for.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)

21. Biden was my pick.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:30 PM

Jul 2016

His foreign policy was needed as was his showmanship. He also played the role of "mentor" to a young President.

Hillary has admitted that she is not the politician that Bill is. She needs someone who is exciting. In my opinion, that's not Kaine.

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