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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEven with Tim Kaine, Hillary is still better than the fascist Trump.
We're going after work a hell of a lot harder if she wins the election to push her in a more progressive direction.
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Even with Tim Kaine, Hillary is still better than the fascist Trump. (Original Post)
JRLeft
Jul 2016
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I don't know, I know I feel less hopeful about her presidency today than I did 24 hours ago.
JRLeft
Jul 2016
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Kaine is also religious right, long time vocal opponent of civil unions and marriage equality
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#6
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)1. Well, there's that consolation.
Will it be enough? Time will tell.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)2. I don't know, I know I feel less hopeful about her presidency today than I did 24 hours ago.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)3. Well,
the Dem candidates vs Trump polling conducted during the primaries could prove prophetic. There is that chance. We have two candidates with upside down favorability ratings...anything can happen.
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JRLeft
(7,010 posts)5. I hate our choices, but one is better.
I don't hate Hillary personally, I think she means well. My ideology differs from hers.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)6. Kaine is also religious right, long time vocal opponent of civil unions and marriage equality
both, and that's based on his religious views. He signed an anti gay Constitutional Amendment into Virginia law after promising to veto it while running for that office. Yep, Pence is worse but it's a matter of degree and not actual difference.