2016 Postmortem

senseandsensibility

(17,064 posts) Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:52 PM Jul 2016

Just heard that Kaine will change his position on trade to match Hillary's,

so there's that. Heard live just now on MSNBC.

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Just heard that Kaine will change his position on trade to match Hillary's, (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jul 2016 OP

That's good news. Squinch Jul 2016 #1

Just heard it as well! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2

That's good news democrattotheend Jul 2016 #3

I share your concerns, but I thought senseandsensibility Jul 2016 #8

I just hope they keep listening after winning democrattotheend Jul 2016 #13

Yes, he is supposed to support the top of the ticket. Good Move. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #4

Which stand? Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #5

+1,000 n/t LarryNM Jul 2016 #7

THANKS, Silver_Witch! elleng Jul 2016 #11

The one where they work the back room deals to get TTP through a lame duck congress tk2kewl Jul 2016 #12

Hahahaha, you are adorable. Arkana Jul 2016 #21

with democrats... really... you think this won't happen? tk2kewl Jul 2016 #22

OOppssiee.. truthout. pangaia Jul 2016 #15

Hillary Clinton is not on board with the TPP in KMOD Jul 2016 #16

Anti-TPP emulatorloo Jul 2016 #17

Whichever. Barack_America Jul 2016 #20

But, still... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #6

and I have a bridge to sell you, he already matches her stated position larkrake Jul 2016 #9

Her stated position is anti-TPP. Reporter said she laid down the law to Kaine and told him he neede emulatorloo Jul 2016 #18

If true, that's good. Let's see also watta about reducing Akamai Jul 2016 #10

Clinton is against reducing bank regulations. He'll have to fall in line with that as well emulatorloo Jul 2016 #19

I dont understand why progressives were getting upset over his policy positions Skoods Jul 2016 #14

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

1. That's good news.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:52 PM

Jul 2016

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)

2. Just heard it as well!

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:53 PM

Jul 2016

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)

3. That's good news

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:54 PM

Jul 2016

Keep in mind, he said he hadn't decided how to vote on the actual agreement.

That said, I don't really buy Hillary being against TPP in the first place. She was instrumental in negotiating it.

senseandsensibility

(17,064 posts)

8. I share your concerns, but I thought

Reply to democrattotheend (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:59 PM

Jul 2016

it was a good sign that they are listening to the base. Of course it is up to us to keep the pressure on.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)

13. I just hope they keep listening after winning

Reply to senseandsensibility (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:01 PM

Jul 2016

She could run the most progressive campaign in the world and it won't matter if she governs like a DLCer.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)

4. Yes, he is supposed to support the top of the ticket. Good Move.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:55 PM

Jul 2016

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)

5. Which stand?

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:56 PM

Jul 2016

LarryNM

(493 posts)

7. +1,000 n/t

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:59 PM

Jul 2016

elleng

(130,968 posts)

11. THANKS, Silver_Witch!

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:59 PM

Jul 2016

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)

12. The one where they work the back room deals to get TTP through a lame duck congress

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:00 PM

Jul 2016

So they can say they were against it but there's nothing they can do

Arkana

(24,347 posts)

21. Hahahaha, you are adorable.

Reply to tk2kewl (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:56 PM

Jul 2016

You actually think there are back room deals to be made with this Congress. THIS FUCKING CONGRESS.

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)

22. with democrats... really... you think this won't happen?

Reply to Arkana (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 23, 2016, 01:06 PM

Jul 2016

how much more evidence do you need of democrats' back room dealings and their attempts to hide that from the public?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

15. OOppssiee.. truthout.

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:10 PM

Jul 2016

KMOD

(7,906 posts)

16. Hillary Clinton is not on board with the TPP in

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:12 PM

Jul 2016

it's current form.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)

17. Anti-TPP

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:18 PM

Jul 2016

Per reporter she told Kaine she's anti-TPP and Kaine needed to be anti-TPP as well if he was to be part of the team. He agreed.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)

20. Whichever.

Reply to Silver_Witch (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:42 PM

Jul 2016

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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

6. But, still...

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:57 PM

Jul 2016

We have Democratic President Obama making the case.

Trump is anti-TPP. I don't know if I want to be on the stupid side of an issue.

larkrake

(1,674 posts)

9. and I have a bridge to sell you, he already matches her stated position

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:59 PM

Jul 2016

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)

18. Her stated position is anti-TPP. Reporter said she laid down the law to Kaine and told him he neede

Reply to larkrake (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:21 PM

Jul 2016

To support anti-TPP position. He agreed. This reported by MSNBC reporter who covers Clinton campaign. Segment was on Chris Hayes show.

Akamai

(1,779 posts)

10. If true, that's good. Let's see also watta about reducing

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:59 PM

Jul 2016

bank regulations.

I am sure no fan of liberalizing banking regulations or TPP.

BTW -- what does Bernie say?

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)

19. Clinton is against reducing bank regulations. He'll have to fall in line with that as well

Reply to Akamai (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:22 PM

Jul 2016

Skoods

(341 posts)

14. I dont understand why progressives were getting upset over his policy positions

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 09:02 PM

Jul 2016

He's the VP. Short of Hillary dying, he won't have any power besides a tie breaking role in the Senate. In the event that single constitutional duty arrives, he'd just do the bidding of the President anyway.

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