It's not fighting the primaries, it's fighting progressives and the Democratic Party.

If the DNC picked a candidate to support in the primaries the Democratic party has major issues.

With an excellent platform and many many excellent elected officials.

Let's transition DWS out while bringing in a rockstar like O'Malley.

Just providing hard evidence that backs up claims from Sanders supporters. Claims that were considered utter nonsense and tinfoil hat worthy on this site.

All about perspective I guess. Any theories as to why Putin didn't hack the RNC servers? My guess is that he did, but doesn't aid the election of his boy Trump.

Do you care about the contents of the emails?

election? That Trump has promised Putin he can invade NATO allies without pushback?

My primary candidate Bernie Sander said HRC won fair and square. There's nothing on the up and up in the Putin/trump alliance.

They highlight the ugly reality that the DNC was against Bernie as early as March (the earliest email released). It's possible there's more that was going on earlier in the campaign, but this batch of emails doesn't go back that far.

And I'll keep to myself my thoughts on Weaver's exceedingly counter-productive demonization of the DNC after Sanders staffers illegally accessed HRC campaign data.

Bernie fired them because it was the right thing to do. Weaver made the first one of his endless strategic blunders that built one up on the other and IMHO ended up costing Bernie the nomination.

Yeah agreed DNC and especially Wasserman-Schultz suck. But not interested in Russian Intelligences efforts to elect Donald Trump.

I said in my first reply to you that it is a matter of perspective.

I have no problem acknowledging the DNC sucks.

You appear to have a problem acknowledging Putin/Trump collusion.

Both things can be true at the same time.

with this.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/22/leaked-docs-reveal-dnc-determined-undermine-sanders-campaign

was saying about the Democratic party.

It's over, and she won.

They did not choose Bernie...so it is moot. This is divisive and I believe is refighting primaries which is not helpful to our job which is electing Hillary.

Appreciate your post, thank you!

Those emails don't come anywhere close to proving collusion. There's no rule that DNC staffers aren't allowed to express themselves privately in emails to each other. Especially since the Sanders campaign was actively attacking the DNC and calling for DWS to be ousted.

Is there only this one e-mail? It's all I've heard about.

It seems to go against the terms of service I agreed to 30 minutes ago.

be neutral and NOT favor ANY candidate.

So much for rules...

I'm concerned...

and concerning.

The DNC is supposed to remain neutral during the primaries. Beyond that, the fact that the emails suggest using something like Sanders religious beliefs against him shows a decided lack of ethics on the part of the DNC, especially when combined with the rest.

If you're unconcerned because you're candidate won, then that says a great deal about you, and none of it positive.

They're disgraceful.

The only things in the E-mails were private comments DNC staffers made to each other. There is no record of them actually doing anything to Bernie. One is just planning for a defense against Bernie's lies.

I read the E-mails. They are real E-mails but they don't show any actual attempt by the DNC to influence the election. One crazy idea was talked about in one but it obviously didn't go anywhere. Just talk among staffers.

The primaries are over, Bernie has endorsed Hillary, and that a fact. This won't change anything, even though some here seem to think it will.

view the DNC in future elections. I don't think a lot of people will trust the DNC and will be reluctant to make political donations. That makes it very serious. Someone needs take the fall for this, ideally someone who repeatedly denied allegations of showing favoritism throughout the primaries.

You think this is bad, should have been hanging out then. And Democrats still won.

A much different Democratic party in different times, long before the Internet. Accountability is still important.

to join another, less successful party.

people follow the rules is very important. How are voters to trust the DNC if they are perceived to be biased and dishonest? Maybe the Democratic voters deserve better.

I am not persuaded. And anyway, we have a great ticket, so rejoice!

I know people who have always voted Democratic that are very upset and may not vote. Hopefully the threat of a Trump presidency will motivate them to go to the polls, but it will probably be without much enthusiasm. Republicans vote out of duty and habit, Democrats vote out of passion and idealism. Without the passion, people could be inclined to blow off an election.

when someone is publicly railing against you here, there and everywhere.

Release some dirt on that bastard instead of trying to time this crappola just before the start of the Dem convention.

That's why you won't see anything from them about Drumpf.

Why is Wikileaks releasing the fruits of Putin's hackers' efforts now instead of before Super Tuesday or New York?

Cui bono?

We don't know when they got them or how long it took them to review the batch before releasing. No doubt the timing isn't a coincidence, but waiting this long could just be a logistical issue. Either way unless Wikileaks explains the timing themselves all we'll ever have is speculation.

They did a document dump rather than screening.

They're trying to help Putin help Trump.

Either way it doesn't change the content of the emails.

Was there any wrong doing, any fraud or anything? Yes they preferred HRC. In 2008 when I preferred HRC, DNC preferred Obama and I remember being mad with Nancy Pelosi. There's no love lost between Debbie Wasserman Shultz and bernie - they have publicly said so. Even in the case where they had to revoke database access, it was about how badly the Bernie campaign was run with their own anger thrown in for some measure. Finally though, it was the voters who voted and there is absolutely nothing in the emails that indicates fraud. Bernie was/is an independent who thinks Democratic party is not good and needs to be reformed, HRC is a democrat and they prefer her. I don't see anything surprising.

his character and his campaign.

WikiLeaks highlighted on Twitter a few of the emails, such as one dated May 21, 2016 from DNC Deputy Communications Director Mark Paustenbach to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda regarding how to construct an anti-"Bernie narrative" focusing on the fact that he "never ever had his act together."

Another email dated May 5, 2016 (Subject Line: No Shit) from DNC Chief Financial Office Brad Marshall appears to show that the DNC sought to focus on Sanders' supposed atheism as a negative point.

It does not call the Vermont senator by name, but states: "It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist."

...snip
As RT also reports: "Another email shows officials of the DNC—the governing body of the party that is supposedly neutral when it comes to Democratic candidates—using 'us and them' language when referring to Sanders supporters."

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/22/leaked-docs-reveal-dnc-determined-undermine-sanders-campaign

it owed no loyalty to the Democratic party, and that it was willing to take the party down in order to win. And it became increasingly more personal concerning DWS. Had the campaign remained clean, those emails never would have been written

Where was all the outrage against Dr. West's betrayal of both the party and Senator Sanders last week?

DWS is not the lightening rod for truth or democracy. This has been proven not only by
the DNC's own recently exposed emails regarding Sanders, but by her own political stands like supporting pay day loans that is 'until" she got caught with her pants down about it.

and the democratic party was never an Bernie enthusiast. This was never in doubt. But it still allowed Bernie to run as a democrat, use resources as any other candidate would do. How they felt about him as reflected in internal emails means nothing, is not fraud. There was no public disparaging or cheating.

Links that Bernie was not a democrat?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/23/bernie-sanders-democrat/

It says clearly: One thing is clear: Sanders isn’t enthusiastic about being part of the Democratic club, or any club for that matter.

It was not one sided picking.

Since when is RT a go to source for anything other than narratives whose goal is to tear the Democrats apart?

"It's not Putin and the Russians trying to get Trump elected. I read in Russian Times that the real threat against democracy is DWS."

Think it through.

So nothing disparaging was said.

The two DNC members were discussing possible strategies to use if Sanders launched a third party run.

from Sanders lies. The second one was just a private comment between staff members with no evidence anything actually was carried out.

Its not surprising the DNC used us and them language. The Sanders camp smeared the DNC all through the campaign. Even after illegal spying nothing turned up about them ever treating Sanders unfairly.

Some people here are equating responding to attacks against the Democratic party with helping the Democratic candidate who was not attacking the party.

obtained those "emails" from Guccifer (or whatever the name is). Isn't that the hacker who claimed to have hacked the Clinton server, then later admitted he lied?

It is not known if Guccifer has any involvement at all.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/22/leaked-docs-reveal-dnc-determined-undermine-sanders-campaign

But "Guccifer 2.0" who is thought to have leaked this looks like he might be a Russian front. At the very least, he isn't what he claims to be (Romanian), so who knows about the motives.

Also of interest, Guccifer 2.0 has shown he has DNC emails at least back as far as January, so it would mean there's more to come.

There shall be no religious test. The fact that the DNC was plotting it makes it even worse!

I want answers stat!!

"DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, 'The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.'”

and this is politics after all. And putting primary acrimony aside, I do not understand what Sanders hoped to gain from that strange maneuver. As far as I can tell it backfired and it wouldn't have been hard to figure that it would.

It's the first hit in Google.

Even so, the DNC, being a private organization, can violate it's own rules because they're not legally binding. Too bad the RNC didn't do the same in regards to Trump.

the more and more negative some Sanders surrogates became concerning the Democratic party. I don't blame the DNC for responding in kind.

"Sanders called for Wasserman Schultz to step down, and in an April 24 email she received with an article detailing Sanders talking about the DNC being unfair to his campaign, the chairwoman responded, 'Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what we do.'"

It sounds like at least some of the emails were responses to attacks against the party.

there are different opinions about how fair or unfair DWS was towards the Sanders campaign.

DWS is good for the Democratic party. She has a very poor track record as DNC chair - not very good a winning elections and been caught lying numerous times.

But unfortunately it is too late to do much. As bad as this is it's not worth letting Trump get elected, which would be bad for almost every minority religious and ethnic group.

As far as I know they never actually went there, so I guess that means Hillary or her campaign wisely chose not to pursue that line of attack. So I can't really hold her directly responsible.

That said, I do think this shows that Bernie supporters complaining the DNC was rigged against them weren't just blowing hot air.

Eating right wing memes? I get that cognitive dissonance is uncomfortably, but burying your head in the sand on an issue this important will do nothing but hurt the party long term.

... the primary and then say the DNC was working against Sanders when Sanders didn't have a chance to win.

But go ahead... think what our winger meme repeating M$M wants people to think

Tell the party big shots to clean up their fucking act. It's not the Right's fault the Democratic elites are corrupt.

... which there was.

All the other shit is winger meme looking at the facts

There is way more important stuff than refighting the primary. Right wing crap .

He wants Trump . Stop helping him.

... position among both parties.

Fuck people who repeat winger memes on DU !!!

Should O'Malley and Sanders supporters be happy to learn the DNC violated it's own rules and favored one candidate over the others?

... without discernment at all !!

If there were emails showing an operational attempts to tilt the primaries from the beginning and undermine Sanders then there'd be an argument but not after Clinton statistically locked up the primaries...

Man, people can be assholes

to analyze, to assess the significance of the facts, etc. Blurting out emotional nonsense isn't about FAUX news memes is kind of silly.

The substance to what you said is that the emails suggest that the DNC was willing to undermine Sanders after the nomination was already nearly wrapped up by Clinton. They don't suggest the existence of any earlier willingness to do so. That is worth pointing out and discussing. I would add that even if it only began on May 5, that would still violate DNC's rule about impartiality.

Fuck people who can't handle facts.

... then but go ahead and keep repeating what wingers repeat and sloppy ass'd M$M.

This is a bullshit based off the facts

... Sanders was already down by a millions of votes and no political party on Earth would've went against that vote.

Quite as its kept, May 5th was still late

Don't forget the media blackout of Sanders. Big money had no interest in seeing a "Socialist" elected, someone who stated he would raise taxes on the wealthy and big corporations.

Snowden... Putin... Trump... connect the dots.

Lying Asshole.

And I thought the party was better than that. But what's done is done.

but the DNC needs to make some serious changes if it expects Democratic voters to support it in future elections. Resignations of certain people would be a good start.

and it will continue until we have the balls to reform campaign finance.

It's THEIR choice.

Many of us knew this was going on.

I hope these emails give reformers the evidence they need to push reform effectively.

Bernie Sanders certainly does not.

By giving him the legitimacy of the Democratic label and thus leading to millions of people donating their hard earned money to what they thought was a fair and impartial race?

Sure you want to go there?

And at the end of the day, it was always about who got the most votes.

Why isn't that obviously a problem?

For example, after the Nevada debacle someone obtained tape of Kato, Sanders campaign director in Nevada, giving instructions about not leaving and to keep on until they were told to stop from Sanders own campaign. We jumped on this as "proof" that Sanders "planned" the disruption at the Nevada convention. It took a Sanders supporter to say that it might not be what we thought it was. In other words, you may be jumping to.conxlusions.

See where this is going? We want to help Hillary and hurt Trump. We want to elect Hillary...things can be changed for the presidential or mid-term election, but now is not the time to worry about it.