but thanks for confirming.

The entire ticket will OPPOSE TPP. Huge f up on my part, posting without coffee!

It's terribly concerning.

Do you know how progressive those stances were/are in VA in the 2000's?

There's a small undercurrent of people who were backing Bernie on here who have made it clear they believe fiscal issues are the only ones that define whether or not you are progressive. To them, only Bernie and Warren are progressives in the Senate, so they were the only acceptable picks. To the rest of us, who realize how important the fights for social equality are too, that approach shrinks what is supposed to be our big tent. If one issues is enough to dump Kaine, what kind of party can we ever have?

so at least he understands his stance is not popular.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-vice-president_us_577ec219e4b0c590f7e8a3e9?795jn05tnb8x5hfr

The TPP is a disaster to the plant environmentally. I wonder where he stands on caring for the planet and global warming?

Rah rah rah!

GO HILL & TIM!!!

"The Trans Pacific Partnership, which includes the US and 11 other nations, is the largest regional trade agreement in history. But as of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it. I don't believe it's going to meet the high bar I have set for creating jobs and advancing national security. I am also worried about currency manipulation not being part of the agreement, and that pharmaceutical companies may have gotten more benefits from the deal than their patients."

Source: PBS.org on 2015 presidential hopefuls , Oct 7, 2015

but it won't matter either way if it goes through before Inauguration Day. Perhaps it'll all work out, but I'm not sold on her level of opposition to bad trade deals that weaken domestic labor.

Look, I've gone away post-primary and figured I'd just suffer through the summer and hope for the best. But I think HRC should have chosen a progressive VP rather than someone who is center-right. I don't think it'll sway the vote one way or another, but I do think it's a passive-aggressive move against her Left flank/Bernie supporters. Not sure if the numbers work out better for her WRT Virginia in November, but I think she wouldn't lose it to Trump unless there was a complete collapse or unforeseen scandal that flipped the script in the last days of the campaign. I just wish she would've chose someone with more bona-ride progressive credentials.

That's about all I have to say about that...

Versus raging hair-on-fire loose cannon without a lick of experience Trump.

I'm very happy with capable.

... correct me if I'm wrong but that hope seems to be dashed by the consummate repeating of winger memes.

because they are forward-thinking, compassionate people who know that the most disadvantaged of people in society will suffer the most under a Trump presidency. They don't allow their personal ideology to make them selfish and hold out for someone who is "pure". They know that the best way to move forward with a progressive agenda is to get Hillary elected and then work their tails off for progressive candidates at all levels of government.

Anyone who isn't voting for Hillary because she isn't "pure" enough for them is a Hillary hater, not a progressive.

Tim Kaine wasn't my first choice, but I am open minded to learn more about him. What I've heard so far, and particularly from Virginia DUers who have known and worked with him personally, is that he's a kind, decent man with strong Democratic credentials. A man who's never lost an election, who knows how to talk to all sorts of people and connect with them, who would be ready to assume the presidency if god forbid something should happen.

He's a good pick.

It's a great pick I think.

My choice was Xavier Becerra. Less likely than Merkley probably even!

Sounds like you have already labeled him without much evidence. The other point is regardless of his ideology, the VP pick does not drive policy it wins votes or it doesn't. If Kaine helps win the election in Va and the rust belt then he was the right choice even if he doesn't make Sanders supporters feel warm and fuzzy.

platform.

It is a corporate tool to destroy the middle class.

I'll look forward to reading and understanding his history there. But I will say this... I'm a union guy myself in Illinois, and if those union guys like the ones I work with aren't already supporting Clinton then it isn't because of TPP or Right to Work or any other single issue... it's more likely because of something about her that Tim Kaine or nobody else could help her with. Or maybe I should say something about themselves.

You concern OP is all out of order. You did well in the opening title with grabbing the attention of like minded people. Then you kind of added a smattering of "see this is bad" points. You kind of effectively added a why can't you people see I am right and x is the answer you should be supporting. But then came the worst mistake made by a concerned person, it was all the way at the end. Rookie mistake I am sure and I am happy to share more insight into crafting a proper concern OP if you wish.

I am not. Thanks for the tips.

I am concerned and learning about him, both.

But let's be clear, the fascist - tea-party ticket is a nightmare!

If you have, I think you'd be less concerned.

What's the problem? Kaine is a Social Justice Liberal, not a moderate.

and where else are they gonna go?

Politics 101.

I am 100% in favor of Tim Kaine for VP. Although I don't know him personally, a close friend of mine (hair on fire liberal) does, and she is thrilled at his selection. He is well loved in Va., and has done many good things for us. I voted for Bernie in the Primary, but am supporting Hillary now, and happy she picked Tim as her running mate. Do I agree with him on everything? No, but I'm with him about 95% of the time.

The progressives in our party got a great deal in the platform. Your candidate lost in the primary, you cannot expect to get the whole pie. I trust Secretary Clinton to do what is best in terms of beating Donald Trumper. I am sorry you are "concerned" but if that concern translates into voting for anyone other than Secretary Clinton, or staying home, you are helping elect a fascist as President. Nobody gets everything they want in a party or a candidate.

As they were too valuable there, and that they would be wasted in the VP spot.

Now everyone is bitching because HRC left them in the Senate.

I will also point out that my Primary candidate Bernie Sanders actively reached out to moderate Republican voters.

It was good when Bernie appealed to Republican voters, but it is apparently bad when HRC does it.

In other words, the goalposts keep moving.

To me Kaine is dull and boring. I would have preferred Warren.

However attempts to demonize Kaine as some kind of evil right-winger don't sit well with me, because it is false.

The platform is progressive, HRC's policy positions are to the left, which Bernie confirmed in his endorsement.

Kaine is on board, her prerequisite was that he oppose the TPP etc and he agreed.

You are concerned. This is a concern.

There's a group called Concerned Women of America. Check them out. They'll have a lot of power if Trump gets in the White House.