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Trump +2 in latest national GE Poll (Original Post) woolldog Jul 2016 OP
Gravis marketing dsc Jul 2016 #1
But 8 ball says..... AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #36
One America News Network Cattledog Jul 2016 #2
Gravis is crap DavidDvorkin Jul 2016 #3
Even if you don't like Gravis, woolldog Jul 2016 #7
Nobody here is buying this shit SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #21
I don't care if you buy it or not. woolldog Jul 2016 #23
It didn't take long for your stripes to turn into the usual spots. Sheepshank Jul 2016 #45
The first batch of pre-convention polls should come out tomorrow. There is usually a slew StevieM Jul 2016 #4
According to Silver: woolldog Jul 2016 #11
why is this the only poll where the Clinton & Trump #'s add up to 100%? n/t JustinL Jul 2016 #5
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #16
Does anybody TexasTowelie Jul 2016 #6
Oh it's you... lamp_shade Jul 2016 #8
Ha! DUzy! LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #10
.... auntpurl Jul 2016 #13
I know right ? treestar Jul 2016 #40
No need for concern bravenak Jul 2016 #9
The real takeaway: In the midst of his convention, Trump is at 34% Historically bad. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #12
Reuters-Ipsos was the only poll that had her at +13 for the same time span. charlyvi Jul 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #15
We need to afraid. It will make us work harder. I really don't believe these polls, especailly glennward Jul 2016 #17
Why is there not more publicity greymattermom Jul 2016 #18
Lets see how things look in a week or two. nt. andym Jul 2016 #19
Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #20
Wait until they debate. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #22
Sure that will happen? SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #24
Good point. No way woolldog Jul 2016 #27
Oh Noes!! Panic!!!!! book_worm Jul 2016 #25
Hmmm Charles Bukowski Jul 2016 #26
That's what I see! OhZone Jul 2016 #29
check your filters on reuters. nt woolldog Jul 2016 #43
Some perspective from the RCP averages LAS14 Jul 2016 #30
averages are good, woolldog Jul 2016 #35
I wouldn't say Charles Bukowski Jul 2016 #38
Where? Sugarcoated Jul 2016 #49
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #28
please don't delete the above post. woolldog Jul 2016 #33
Gracie? Lol nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #31
Oh, look. Woolldog posting woolldog things. Our very own Tokyo Rose. Squinch Jul 2016 #32
Ignore is our friend. glennward Jul 2016 #34
More horse poop from..........who are you again? leftofcool Jul 2016 #37
You again Dem2 Jul 2016 #39
Great job woolldog! People need this know this race is getting close. RAFisher Jul 2016 #41
There's way too much complacency on here woolldog Jul 2016 #44
This is a very low convention bounce. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #47
We need to wait... Skid Rogue Jul 2016 #42
Name recognition goes a long way. A week of Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Doodley Jul 2016 #46
Reuter's "poll" is a toy. It's an online poll with a non-random sample pnwmom Jul 2016 #48
Gravis doesnt poll cell phones Raspol Jul 2016 #50
the couch! My Pearls! Smelling salts!! MFM008 Jul 2016 #51
This is why I've been asking about GOTV operations and data analytics piechartking Jul 2016 #52
Clinton already has key states organized up and down the state lines. RandySF Jul 2016 #55
Ah yes. It wouldn't be election year without woolldog freaking the fuck out. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #53
Gravis has a terrible record. RandySF Jul 2016 #54
trump is millennials richard nixon but they don't know it yet BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #56
Looks like Gravis was accurate. woolldog Jul 2016 #57

dsc

(52,162 posts)
1. Gravis marketing
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jul 2016

what's wrong, was your Ouija board broken? Do you ever, ever post anything other than bogus, bullshit polls?

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
7. Even if you don't like Gravis,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jul 2016

the Reuters-Ipsos poll confirms that Trump is surging.

He made up 13 points in 10 days.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
23. I don't care if you buy it or not.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

Facts are facts.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Silver has Ohio, Florida, and Iowa light pink in the polls only forecast. Clinton's chances in that forecast have gone from 80% to 57% in a month.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
45. It didn't take long for your stripes to turn into the usual spots.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jul 2016

I'd wondered when it would happen.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
4. The first batch of pre-convention polls should come out tomorrow. There is usually a slew
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jul 2016

of polls that come out on Sunday morning after the Convention.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
11. According to Silver:
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jul 2016

Before we run through the polls, a note of caution: The convention bounce is going to be harder than usual to study this year. That’s because in contrast to 2012, when the polls were extremely steady for weeks before the conventions, they were on the move heading into the RNC this year. In particular, they were on the move toward Trump — or away from Clinton — with Trump whittling down what had been a 6- or 7-percentage point lead for Clinton in late June into something more like a 3-point lead by mid-July.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-is-trump-getting-a-convention-bump/

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. No need for concern
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jul 2016

Gravis is a bullshit poll and our convention is coming up. He should have had a yuuuuge bounce like we will after our convention. He did not have the wonderful speakers we have.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
14. Reuters-Ipsos was the only poll that had her at +13 for the same time span.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jul 2016

Which leads to the conclusion that it was probably an outlier. Most other polls had her lead at 3 to 5 points. Then there was a convention bounce, a tiny convention bounce, for Trump. Using an outlier poll and a not too reliable poll taken after a convention, to prove a 13 point lead has dissolved for Hillary is disingenuous at best; but, hey you just keep right on trying.

Response to woolldog (Original post)

 

glennward

(989 posts)
17. We need to afraid. It will make us work harder. I really don't believe these polls, especailly
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

after Melania-gate. More needs to be said about the relationship of Trumps key person and his relationship to Russia and Putin...that's NOT putting America first.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
24. Sure that will happen?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

I've been thinking he can't possibly get through a traditional debate against her. I expect him to continue bashing the press and start making unreasonable demands about the debate formats.
If he ends up facing her directly she will make him look like a bigger fool than he is.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
27. Good point. No way
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jul 2016

is he going to step into the ring with Hillary. He'll look like a fool debating her and he knows it.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
35. averages are good,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jul 2016

but they tend to be lagging indicators..for obvious reasons.

In other words, over the past week or so trump has been surging. That will take time to be reflected in the averages

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
38. I wouldn't say
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jul 2016

Trump is surging, it has more to do with Clinton declining. The FBI announcement knocked her down a peg or two.

Even in the most favorable polls for Trump, he struggles to get above 40%. Clinton's ceiling had already proven to be higher.

Response to woolldog (Original post)

RAFisher

(466 posts)
41. Great job woolldog! People need this know this race is getting close.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jul 2016

Gravis does lean republican but what people aren't saying is that Clinton lead in every Gravis poll before this one. We still don't have any polls conducted completely after the RNC and Donald Mussolini's Thursday night tirade. Nate Silver now has Florida, Iowa, and Ohio favoring Trump. That said, these are not trends yet. We don't know what the rest of the polling will show.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
44. There's way too much complacency on here
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jul 2016

and a tendency to try to ignore evidence that we don't like. People also thought there was no way the Brits would vote for Brexit either. But it happened. Turnout will need to be huge in Nov.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
42. We need to wait...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jul 2016

until after our Convention, then look at the higher rated polls. In two weeks we'll have a much better idea of where we stand. It's futile getting overly worried the weekend before our Convention. And, talk about "snapshot" polls. If, at worst, Trump's bounce is only 3 points, that's not much of a bounce.

Just stay motivated, be happy about Kaine, and don't worry about the polls for a couple of weeks.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
48. Reuter's "poll" is a toy. It's an online poll with a non-random sample
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jul 2016

and the results have been all over the place. But go ahead and keep playing with it if it makes you happy.


On edit: and it's conducted entirely in English -- no surveys in Spanish for Spanish speakers, like more reputable pollsters.

 

Raspol

(20 posts)
50. Gravis doesnt poll cell phones
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:30 AM
Jul 2016

Which is why you choose not to even mention the fact that this is a Gravis poll.

piechartking

(617 posts)
52. This is why I've been asking about GOTV operations and data analytics
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:02 AM
Jul 2016

I think we have a substantial advantage in this area, and it's imperative to:

1. Identify voters and register them
2. Pile up early vote margins
3. Purchase ad time now for ad times in October/November, while the Trump campaign has no money, effectively squeezing them out of advertising during that period, or forcing them to pay more at a later date when rates are more expensive.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
53. Ah yes. It wouldn't be election year without woolldog freaking the fuck out.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:09 AM
Jul 2016

woolldog was very concerned about McCain winning in 2008.
woolldog was very concerned about Romney winning in 2012.
woolldog is now very concerned about Trump winning in 2016.

Every. Four. Years.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
57. Looks like Gravis was accurate.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jul 2016

CNN has Trump at +4

LA Times/USC has Trump at +4

CBS News has Trump at +1

Meanwhile the far left is arguing about Sanders and DWS and the DNC. More far left protestors protesting the DNC instead of Trump the fascist.


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