2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill the DNC email leak cause Bernie to go rogue in his speech?
The media keeps talking about how the leak will disrupt the truce between the Bernie and Clinton camps. Do you think Bernie will retract his endorsement and go rogue like Ted Cruz did last week?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)Who can be trusted 100% on his word.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)So, while I certainly think he will not do what the OP suggests, I qualify it.
You see how it's perfectly okay for you to say Hillary is not trust worthy, and then complain that shade is thrown at Bernie. I find Hillary to be very trustworthy. I can give you examples of when Bernie said something that didn't turn out exactly that way, or is not 100% open, but primaries are over. You can no doubt provide the same of Hillary too, but again primaries are over. They are both human with beliefs in causes.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)Shade is thrown at Bernie a thousand times a day here.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Bernie is a grownup. He knows exactly what's at stake in this election. Hillary will receive his full-throated support and he will campaign enthusiastically for her.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)Until it has, he is smart to keep talking like it doesn't exist, because it hasn't been proven yet.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)aikoaiko
(34,171 posts)Then fully support HillTim and the more progressive aspects of the platform.
Rogue? Not any more then he has been.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)The leak is being spun as something it isn't by folks with an obvious agenda. Bernie is a smart man.
He wants Hillary to win, and Trump to lose.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Bernie has enthusiastically endorsed Hillary. This silliness will not sway that.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Bernie is a good man. Not revengeful.
annavictorious
(934 posts)Sanders knows what's at stake.
global1
(25,253 posts)We have a Dem ticket - direct your negativism to Trump & the Repugs and leave Bernie alone. He has endorsed Hillary and will work hard to keep Trump out of the WH. Why are you trying to start trouble?
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)or is rat fucking.
WILL NEVER HAPPEN
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Bernie is a man of his word. He's made it perfectly clear he'll do whatever he can to help defeat Trump. Frankly there's really no news here. It was perfectly clear all along that the DNC was putting their thumbs on the scales to help Hillary. We can disagree about whether their behavior was right or justified, but this isn't a surprise to most of us, probably least of all to Bernie.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)at the DNC for doing this. It certainly soured things between the camps, particularly since none of the candidates had anything to do with it.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)But if the question is will this cause Bernie to pull a Cruz I think the answer's a pretty clear no.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Sure, the media will be trying to lead a circle jerk with that masturbatory fantasy in the middle, but its not going to happen.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)NewHampshiriteGuy
(95 posts)This was a very poorly timed leak and clearly intentional effort by the Russians, who we know hacked the data, to influence the election in Trump's favor. That's not a conspiracy theory...the evidence supports this theory.
Nonetheless, this combined with a VP pick (which I am now happy with despite my wishes for Warren) that many of the Berniecrats see as a rebuke to the left wing of the party has the potential to turn our convention into a sh*#show given the number of Bernie delegates in attendance.
I truly hope the Clinton campaign has reached out directly to Bernie to assure him of their lack of involvement in this and I think DWS should resign as chair. It doesn't matter that I personally was not a Bernie fan, I think the campaign has to smooth this over before the convention because this has really screwed up our path toward unity at a very delicate time.
Also, don't even attempt to call me a concern troll...I've been team Hillary since day one.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Russians yet so sure the DNC was? Should we be concerned that another WikiDump is coming with SOS server emails? I'm just trying to understand the logic here.
Tal Vez
(660 posts)I am confident that I can find some that seem to favor Sanders.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)....this was happening, whether the emails leaked or they didn't. Bernie is going to transition to an elder statesman for the future. A Ted Kennedy for a new era.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To defeat him. No matter what was said in the primaries is over, defeating Trump is our next goal.
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...he will not "go rogue."
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)then he had no business running for President.
But, I'm sure he did.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)very well timed bullshit. Does anyone else see though this one????
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)I severely doubt that Sanders will pull a Ted Cruz on HRC; he'll keep his word and urge his supporters to vote for Clinton/Kaine and concentrate on getting down-ticket candidates elected.
Sanders will have his night at the convention, and between him, Liz Warren, Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, President Obama, etc., they will make TrumpleThinSkin regret the day his mommy gave birth to him.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)He may demand reforms at the DNC and he will probably get them but he isn't going to sabotage Clinton. He isn't petty or self centered. He knows we can't afford to not elect clinton.
timlot
(456 posts)Unpredictable bunch.
renie408
(9,854 posts)They amounted to bitchy office chat. I feel like he probably knew that he wasn't DWS most favorite candidate before they leaked the emails. I think he is a grown up who will make a smart political decision. I don't think there is anything in it for him if Trump wins. If Hillay wins and he can help her get there, he has an opportunity to see some of the reforms he is passionate about enacted.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)But the email leak is very, very, very serious. If 100 percent true, it could be quite damaging to the party, as it should be; I'll never trust the DNC again. Not like I really trust them now; I don't trust anyone in politics.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Hell i'm a Bernie primary supporter and I found Weaver annoying, inept, and a disaster at strategy.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)Are the trolls from JPR. I don't believe anything they say.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)He still lost and he has a career to consider.
peggysue2
(10,831 posts)from a meme like this are the Trumpsters. They are desperate to create chaos, a civil war between Democrats to split the vote. It's the only way they can win.
I was not a Sanders supporter but I find the idea of him going 'rogue' ludicrous, as ridiculous as his supporters flocking in droves to Donald Trump because . . . Whatever. The Donald is the antithesis of everything Bernie Sanders has dedicated his professional life to, built his reputation on and run his campaign around. Only someone as vindictive as Donald Trump or as weaselly as Ted Cruz would throw an election (go rogue) for personal spite.
I simply don't see that character trait in Senator Sanders. There's too much at stake in this election with an unhinged candidate in the wings. We certainly don't need to be eating our own.