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fried eggs

(910 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:18 PM Jul 2016

Will the DNC email leak cause Bernie to go rogue in his speech?

The media keeps talking about how the leak will disrupt the truce between the Bernie and Clinton camps. Do you think Bernie will retract his endorsement and go rogue like Ted Cruz did last week?

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Will the DNC email leak cause Bernie to go rogue in his speech? (Original Post) fried eggs Jul 2016 OP
No NWCorona Jul 2016 #1
If he's a man of his word, no DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #2
Why would you say "if". He's the only person out of ALL candidates in both party's onecaliberal Jul 2016 #12
He's a politician DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #16
Only? zenabby Jul 2016 #21
I'm not throwing shade, just facts. I'm supporting her so you can calm yourself. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #23
That is a nasty thing to say. riversedge Jul 2016 #22
Of course not. auntpurl Jul 2016 #3
The leak hasn't been proven true yet scscholar Jul 2016 #4
Until it is or is not, but exactly. Hortensis Jul 2016 #19
If it comes up he will likely speak about it honestly and show it as an example of needed change and aikoaiko Jul 2016 #5
No. And he is NOTHING like Cruz, and it upsets me that you compare him to Cruz. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #6
by May 5th there was already a clear winner, the bias meme is a winger one FAUX news is trumpeting uponit7771 Jul 2016 #7
Doubtful mcar Jul 2016 #8
No. fun n serious Jul 2016 #9
No. annavictorious Jul 2016 #10
Will You People Lay Off The Bernie Bashing Already.... global1 Jul 2016 #11
Since Hillary isn't the DNC, it better not. He'd be kissing his future goodbye. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #13
No. An absolutely ludicrous theory put forth by someone/media who doesn't live in reality, MerryBlooms Jul 2016 #14
No, of course not. TDale313 Jul 2016 #15
As far as that goes, I think some heads should roll DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #17
Well, I agree on that. TDale313 Jul 2016 #25
No. JoePhilly Jul 2016 #18
Whatever answer excites you! Run with that! Her Sister Jul 2016 #20
I hope the Clinton campaign is reaching out NewHampshiriteGuy Jul 2016 #24
You might be right. But, if so, why do people believe that Hillarys SOS server wasn't hacked by the floriduck Jul 2016 #34
No. If you let me see all the emails written by people at the DNC, Tal Vez Jul 2016 #26
I don't think so. Frankly, Bernie has been around politics long enough to know that... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #27
Why would he throw free bones to Trump? He sees what Trump is and will work Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #28
No... Mike Nelson Jul 2016 #29
No. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #30
If Senator Sanders didn't know that this is how the political process works, LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #31
if you believe total bullshit maybe MFM008 Jul 2016 #32
Ain't. Gonna. Happen. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #33
No Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #35
I would be more worried about Sanders supporter shouting "Lock her Up" timlot Jul 2016 #36
NO, because the leaks weren't all that big a deal renie408 Jul 2016 #37
Probably not bigwillq Jul 2016 #38
Office chatter is rarely significant leftofcool Jul 2016 #40
Catty emails about how annoying Jeff Weaver is not really significant emulatorloo Jul 2016 #44
No, he's neither stupid nor Ted Cruz nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #39
There is no going rogue. Bernie is going to stump for Hillary soon. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #41
The only ones I see pushing that BS Andy823 Jul 2016 #42
No Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #43
The only people who benefit . . . peggysue2 Jul 2016 #45

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
12. Why would you say "if". He's the only person out of ALL candidates in both party's
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jul 2016

Who can be trusted 100% on his word.

zenabby

(364 posts)
21. Only?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jul 2016

You see how it's perfectly okay for you to say Hillary is not trust worthy, and then complain that shade is thrown at Bernie. I find Hillary to be very trustworthy. I can give you examples of when Bernie said something that didn't turn out exactly that way, or is not 100% open, but primaries are over. You can no doubt provide the same of Hillary too, but again primaries are over. They are both human with beliefs in causes.

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
23. I'm not throwing shade, just facts. I'm supporting her so you can calm yourself.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jul 2016

Shade is thrown at Bernie a thousand times a day here.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
3. Of course not.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie is a grownup. He knows exactly what's at stake in this election. Hillary will receive his full-throated support and he will campaign enthusiastically for her.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
4. The leak hasn't been proven true yet
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

Until it has, he is smart to keep talking like it doesn't exist, because it hasn't been proven yet.

aikoaiko

(34,171 posts)
5. If it comes up he will likely speak about it honestly and show it as an example of needed change and
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

Then fully support HillTim and the more progressive aspects of the platform.

Rogue? Not any more then he has been.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
6. No. And he is NOTHING like Cruz, and it upsets me that you compare him to Cruz.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

The leak is being spun as something it isn't by folks with an obvious agenda. Bernie is a smart man.

He wants Hillary to win, and Trump to lose.

global1

(25,253 posts)
11. Will You People Lay Off The Bernie Bashing Already....
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jul 2016

We have a Dem ticket - direct your negativism to Trump & the Repugs and leave Bernie alone. He has endorsed Hillary and will work hard to keep Trump out of the WH. Why are you trying to start trouble?

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)
14. No. An absolutely ludicrous theory put forth by someone/media who doesn't live in reality,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jul 2016

or is rat fucking.

WILL NEVER HAPPEN

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
15. No, of course not.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie is a man of his word. He's made it perfectly clear he'll do whatever he can to help defeat Trump. Frankly there's really no news here. It was perfectly clear all along that the DNC was putting their thumbs on the scales to help Hillary. We can disagree about whether their behavior was right or justified, but this isn't a surprise to most of us, probably least of all to Bernie.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
17. As far as that goes, I think some heads should roll
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jul 2016

at the DNC for doing this. It certainly soured things between the camps, particularly since none of the candidates had anything to do with it.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
25. Well, I agree on that.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jul 2016

But if the question is will this cause Bernie to pull a Cruz I think the answer's a pretty clear no.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
18. No.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jul 2016

Sure, the media will be trying to lead a circle jerk with that masturbatory fantasy in the middle, but its not going to happen.

24. I hope the Clinton campaign is reaching out
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jul 2016

This was a very poorly timed leak and clearly intentional effort by the Russians, who we know hacked the data, to influence the election in Trump's favor. That's not a conspiracy theory...the evidence supports this theory.

Nonetheless, this combined with a VP pick (which I am now happy with despite my wishes for Warren) that many of the Berniecrats see as a rebuke to the left wing of the party has the potential to turn our convention into a sh*#show given the number of Bernie delegates in attendance.

I truly hope the Clinton campaign has reached out directly to Bernie to assure him of their lack of involvement in this and I think DWS should resign as chair. It doesn't matter that I personally was not a Bernie fan, I think the campaign has to smooth this over before the convention because this has really screwed up our path toward unity at a very delicate time.

Also, don't even attempt to call me a concern troll...I've been team Hillary since day one.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
34. You might be right. But, if so, why do people believe that Hillarys SOS server wasn't hacked by the
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016

Russians yet so sure the DNC was? Should we be concerned that another WikiDump is coming with SOS server emails? I'm just trying to understand the logic here.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
26. No. If you let me see all the emails written by people at the DNC,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jul 2016

I am confident that I can find some that seem to favor Sanders.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
27. I don't think so. Frankly, Bernie has been around politics long enough to know that...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jul 2016

....this was happening, whether the emails leaked or they didn't. Bernie is going to transition to an elder statesman for the future. A Ted Kennedy for a new era.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. Why would he throw free bones to Trump? He sees what Trump is and will work
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jul 2016

To defeat him. No matter what was said in the primaries is over, defeating Trump is our next goal.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
31. If Senator Sanders didn't know that this is how the political process works,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

then he had no business running for President.

But, I'm sure he did.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
32. if you believe total bullshit maybe
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

very well timed bullshit. Does anyone else see though this one????

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
33. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jul 2016

I severely doubt that Sanders will pull a Ted Cruz on HRC; he'll keep his word and urge his supporters to vote for Clinton/Kaine and concentrate on getting down-ticket candidates elected.

Sanders will have his night at the convention, and between him, Liz Warren, Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, President Obama, etc., they will make TrumpleThinSkin regret the day his mommy gave birth to him.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
35. No
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

He may demand reforms at the DNC and he will probably get them but he isn't going to sabotage Clinton. He isn't petty or self centered. He knows we can't afford to not elect clinton.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
37. NO, because the leaks weren't all that big a deal
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jul 2016

They amounted to bitchy office chat. I feel like he probably knew that he wasn't DWS most favorite candidate before they leaked the emails. I think he is a grown up who will make a smart political decision. I don't think there is anything in it for him if Trump wins. If Hillay wins and he can help her get there, he has an opportunity to see some of the reforms he is passionate about enacted.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
38. Probably not
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jul 2016

But the email leak is very, very, very serious. If 100 percent true, it could be quite damaging to the party, as it should be; I'll never trust the DNC again. Not like I really trust them now; I don't trust anyone in politics.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
44. Catty emails about how annoying Jeff Weaver is not really significant
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jul 2016

Hell i'm a Bernie primary supporter and I found Weaver annoying, inept, and a disaster at strategy.

peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
45. The only people who benefit . . .
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jul 2016

from a meme like this are the Trumpsters. They are desperate to create chaos, a civil war between Democrats to split the vote. It's the only way they can win.

I was not a Sanders supporter but I find the idea of him going 'rogue' ludicrous, as ridiculous as his supporters flocking in droves to Donald Trump because . . . Whatever. The Donald is the antithesis of everything Bernie Sanders has dedicated his professional life to, built his reputation on and run his campaign around. Only someone as vindictive as Donald Trump or as weaselly as Ted Cruz would throw an election (go rogue) for personal spite.

I simply don't see that character trait in Senator Sanders. There's too much at stake in this election with an unhinged candidate in the wings. We certainly don't need to be eating our own.

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