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liberal N proud

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Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:43 AM Jul 2016

Ted Koppel interviews Trump supporters at the RNC...

Koppel asked Trump supporter David Jones, "You understand he says some things that are patently untrue, demonstrably untrue."

"I don't know that that's the case," Jones responded.

There is, among many Trump supporters, a mind-set similar to what movie and theater-goers engage in: the willing suspension of disbelief.

As when Trump made these remarks about 9/11:

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down, and I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down."
Jones has absolute confidence in that account.

Koppel said, "We live in an era in which, if a kitten falls into a toilet bowl, there are three people with iPhones there that will record the event."

"Yeah."

"If thousands of people on the day that the towers, the twin towers, came down, in this day and age, were out there demonstrating, you don't think one person would have taken a picture of it?"

"It was a very different time," Jones said.

We are not, as Jeff Greenfield underscores, talking about just an occasional fib.

"The Washington Post, when it does its fact checks, they found that roughly two-thirds of his statements are flatly, factually false," Greenfield said. "The dilemma, the limit is, you can't in a newscast say,. 'Donald Trump, who has serially lied his way through the last ...' Can't do that, even if you thought that was factually true."

And even if you could say something like that, media gate-keepers have lost a lot of their impact.

"Donald Trump has recognized that he can have a direct connection to millions of supporters, without having to rely on any third-party infrastructure," said Adam Sharp, head of news, government and elections for Twitter. "It used to be a candidate would have to get booked on the evening news to reach millions of people with that sound bite they wanted to drive the agenda that day. Donald Trump picks up his phone, types a sentence, clicks 'send,' and now millions of people have that message delivered directly to them."

What happens next is far from a foregone conclusion. A recent CBS News/New York Times poll indicates that staggering majorities consider both Trump and Clinton untrustworthy.

Janne Myrdal, a delegate from North Dakota, says she is an evangelical. Koppel asked, "It doesn't bother you this guy's been married three times?"

"Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. But it bothers me more, for the future of my children with somebody ... I know what I'm getting with Hillary. With Trump, we don't know yet. So I agree with you. And you know what? I'm a native of Norway. I'm a citizen now. And my brother called me up the other day, and he said, 'Out of 300 million people in America, you have this buffoon and this criminal family dynasty; can't you come up with somebody else?' And I said, 'Apparently not.' So, that's an honest answer."

Video at link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-marriage-between-trump-and-gop-for-better-and-for-worse/

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Ted Koppel interviews Trump supporters at the RNC... (Original Post) liberal N proud Jul 2016 OP
They should stop with the bs and just call him a straight up LIAR. glennward Jul 2016 #1
Donald Trump's candidacy is the direct result of 30 years of divisive hate by the Republicans. Scuba Jul 2016 #2
They built this greenman3610 Jul 2016 #3
 

glennward

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1. They should stop with the bs and just call him a straight up LIAR.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jul 2016

That is the simple way people understand what you are saying. The can't deal with terms like "fact check" "evidence" "fibs." He is a LIAR, plain and simple. He calls Hillary a liar and millions of his followers believe him. End of discussion!

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