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ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:41 AM Jul 2016

Here's what needs to be done about those heckling morons

Identify a few of the worst offenders. Like the "no unity no trust" guy. It shouldn't be difficult since fellow delegates nearby will hear.

Once a handful are identified like a half dozen or so revoke their credentials and ban them from the floor, and make this VERY public and clear to all delegations.

The rest of those idiots will likely get the message and shut up. If they don't...easier to find. I'd beef up on security for night two in order to eject anyone still heckling. And not after the night us over. In real time.

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Here's what needs to be done about those heckling morons (Original Post) ButterflyBlood Jul 2016 OP
If you're publicly for Jill Stein I don't see the point of being at a Dem convention. RonniePudding Jul 2016 #1
because it's about throwing a tantrum about how they will not vote for the Dems JI7 Jul 2016 #6
Because, from the start, it's always been about Shankapotomus Jul 2016 #19
I don't think that's generalizable, certainly many Sanders supporters began wanting HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #38
It's a disgusting way for them to get free advertising by using the convention, and RKP5637 Jul 2016 #26
Remember when they said Berniebros were a myth? JaneyVee Jul 2016 #2
Remember when they said DNC favoritism was a conspiracy theory? Hissyspit Jul 2016 #14
Thank you Android3.14 Jul 2016 #21
No big conspiracy at all. Bernie got all the same resources. You can't stop individuals from having RBInMaine Jul 2016 #22
I talked shit about Sanders in emails and social media MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #31
No such thing. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #32
agreed 100%.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #3
exactly...and dont wait til the evening timeslots....start right with the first gavel. Oh , and fuck pkdu Jul 2016 #4
+1 SunSeeker Jul 2016 #11
Exactly! let's call it.. angstlessk Jul 2016 #5
The Democratic convention should be for Democrats. It's not a difficult concept. baldguy Jul 2016 #24
Or... JSup Jul 2016 #7
Cynical I know, but.... Scurrilous Jul 2016 #8
I'm watching the 10 pm hour now JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #9
Yes. And there were groups of others doing protest chants. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #12
Yes, they are disrupters who are trying to shout down speakers. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #10
Yep!!! Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2016 #28
Yes the deep divisions in the party can easily be solved by getting rid of a few loud individuals Jemmons Jul 2016 #13
I think they should be put on a list. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #15
When someone is invited to a party leftynyc Jul 2016 #36
Lol. Such drama. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #41
Have a super soaker will travel......... raven mad Jul 2016 #16
We could build a wall around them, and make Bernie pay for it demwing Jul 2016 #17
OMG that made me laugh! RKP5637 Jul 2016 #29
There were a large variety of disruptors unc70 Jul 2016 #18
"because he was involved in the campaign attacks on Bernie's civil rights record" BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #20
Now stop with those facts and that rationality! Hissyspit Jul 2016 #25
John Lewis and Elijah Cummings are not the same person La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #44
Lol. You can't tell your black legislators apart La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #42
Mr. Trump is that you? whistler162 Jul 2016 #23
Our fabulous Democrats took care of them last night. katsy Jul 2016 #27
Berniebros are a myth. Its not real. nt LexVegas Jul 2016 #30
Whew! What a relief! NurseJackie Jul 2016 #33
I'm a huge Hillary fan, but... Stuckinthebush Jul 2016 #34
This has GOT to be lead by Bernie Sanders and his team. Let them handle it - they know who is who. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #35
I don't think suppression is the answer. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #37
Trump would help you out with that randr Jul 2016 #39
It's easy to revoke their creds -- they agreed to certain behavior obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #40
Yesterday the DNC issued an apology to Bernie Sanders. When you admit to a wrong Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #43

JI7

(89,276 posts)
6. because it's about throwing a tantrum about how they will not vote for the Dems
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:36 AM
Jul 2016

but they aren't really going to do anything to help stein other than bash the dems .

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
38. I don't think that's generalizable, certainly many Sanders supporters began wanting
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jul 2016

"anybody but Clinton" and certainly some of them remain that. But, I don't think it's a majority.

I think we have to be careful to recognize that unpleasant, unwanted noise can be produced by small numbers of people and catapulted into overstated perhaps grossly overstated generalities.




RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
26. It's a disgusting way for them to get free advertising by using the convention, and
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jul 2016

the media covers them, much the same as Trump does, free advertising.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
22. No big conspiracy at all. Bernie got all the same resources. You can't stop individuals from having
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:35 AM
Jul 2016

a personal preference. Stop overblowing those dumb emails. True, some people sent a few emails that said some dumb things, but that's no big widespread conspiracy that had any impact on anything. Of course most people who were longtime members of the party were going to personally support the candidate who was a longtime member of the party. That was never any question. Did the DNC deny Bernie resources? Did they wage any kind of huge campaign widespread campaign to undermine him? NO and NO. These emails are being WAY overblown. No, they shouldn't have happened, and some heads do need to roll over it. At the same time, let's not blow it up into more than it is.

Much of this negative feeling between certain DNC office people and the Bernie campaign occurred when Bernie's team went after the DNC from the fallout of THEIR guy misusing Hillary's data lists. Weaver bashed the DNC and moved to sue when it was THEIR screw up and they didn't like the sanction. So that episode caused some bad blood between Bernie's people and the DNC. Put it all in context please.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
31. I talked shit about Sanders in emails and social media
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

Probably saying things that would get me banned here. But when I posted here I knew the rules and followed them. You don't have facts or examples of any favoritism happening, you have a bunch of people talking shit in emails. If you want to indict for that, you may want to ask Comey how that would work out.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
4. exactly...and dont wait til the evening timeslots....start right with the first gavel. Oh , and fuck
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:24 AM
Jul 2016

open primaries and caucuses.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
24. The Democratic convention should be for Democrats. It's not a difficult concept.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 07:01 AM
Jul 2016

It they're not going to support the Democratic nominee in the general election, they have no business being there. BoBs can go fuck themselves.

JSup

(740 posts)
7. Or...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:06 AM
Jul 2016

...wait till primetime, revoke their credentials and just as they're publicly being removed from their seats be all,
"Just kidding, this isn't the RNC."

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
8. Cynical I know, but....
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:13 AM
Jul 2016

Have everyone come out and talk about Hillary's support of Israel. I'd like to see the media egg on the bros when they boo that.

JustAnotherGen

(31,910 posts)
9. I'm watching the 10 pm hour now
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:29 AM
Jul 2016

"no unity, no trust" guy . . . Was he yelling that during Senator Warren's speech?

SunSeeker

(51,728 posts)
10. Yes, they are disrupters who are trying to shout down speakers.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:46 AM
Jul 2016

They have no right to do that and should be booted from the convention.


Jemmons

(711 posts)
13. Yes the deep divisions in the party can easily be solved by getting rid of a few loud individuals
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:53 AM
Jul 2016

That is usually how the world works and almost guarantied to be a success both now and in the long run. It is hard to understand why nobody in DNC have thought of using that approach as it is both effective and easy to implement.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
36. When someone is invited to a party
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

and they show up drunk or loud and obnoxious, insulting the hosts, do you let them stay? Well, that's what these imbeciles are doing at the Democratic convention - being complete and utter assholes. There's an ocean of difference between escorting them out and shipping them off to camps. Sounds like you could use a lesson in telling the difference.

unc70

(6,121 posts)
18. There were a large variety of disruptors
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 05:46 AM
Jul 2016

There were the competing ones shouting/chanting "Bernie" and "Hillary" including during Bernie's speech; "TPP No" during the afternoon speakers from the platform committee; "Black Lives Matter" during some surprising moments including during Bookers's speech; and some specific and general booing.

Cummings was booed probably because he was involved in the campaign attacks on Bernie's civil rights record, and he was also a focus of those strongly opposed to TPP. EDIT To correct that Cummings was not part of the black congressional caucus that had attacked Sanders on civil rights. Cummings had been formally neutral until April.

While there was some rude behavior, there was far less than at contested conventions in the past, and none of the violence common in the past. Given the emotions of the day, it was remarkably civil. -- far more so than here at DU.

BumRushDaShow

(129,558 posts)
20. "because he was involved in the campaign attacks on Bernie's civil rights record"
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 06:00 AM
Jul 2016

I know all blacks look alike but there is a difference between Elijah Cummings and John Lewis (who as a former head of SNCC, was the one who commented on Sanders' involvement, not Elijah Cummings) -

Elijah Cummings


John Lewis


What they did was a DISGRACE. They attacked the opening speakers - all of whom were POC. First impressions are the most indelible and I will never forget.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
44. John Lewis and Elijah Cummings are not the same person
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jul 2016

You guys are inventing your own facts at this point

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
42. Lol. You can't tell your black legislators apart
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:58 AM
Jul 2016

And neither could those racist asses shouting no tpp.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
27. Our fabulous Democrats took care of them last night.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jul 2016

In the most dignified manner ever.

Without fuss or drama, we turned our backs to them.

It was magnificent.

They are welcome to be a part of the greatest party ever or be ignored. Their choice.

Michelle made the point best: when they go low, we go high. That is how we conduct ourselves.

Ignore the noise. Remember who we are.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
34. I'm a huge Hillary fan, but...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:23 AM
Jul 2016

Nah. That'll backfire. Let's take Michelle's advice. "When they go low, we will go high."

Let them be the negative story. We will be the positive story.

aikoaiko

(34,184 posts)
37. I don't think suppression is the answer.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jul 2016

This convention is going well and Democrats will keep the Whitehouse.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
40. It's easy to revoke their creds -- they agreed to certain behavior
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jul 2016

The whips need to get the okay to do it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
43. Yesterday the DNC issued an apology to Bernie Sanders. When you admit to a wrong
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jul 2016

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you do not get to control the reaction to that wrong with some iron hand. If you admit to a wrong then say 'but you can't be angry with me for doing that to you' you have not in fact apologized at all, you've just tried to evade repercussions. I think Donna is trying to look as if she means her apology to Sanders and his supporters.

It's also interesting to see people who can't bear others expressing unsavory opinions when this entire Party expected LGBT to hear unsavory materials out of candidates and vote for them anyway, to be blunt both members of our ticket opposed the rights of LGBT to marry just three years ago. Kaine has also been a vocal opponent of mere civil unions. His opinion has been that I am not worthy of equality. I'm supposed to get past that instantly for Tim, but others can't bear to hear some complaining from the losing side, even as the winning side issues formal apology for bad behavior? Get some perspective.

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