but they're too narcissistic for that.

...to let Donald Trump win because they are selfish *****s purists.

Tell them to let it go! Or stop drinking! Or both!

Barack Obama appears to think it's all good

They are behind Jill Stein for the most part.

i guess I'm weird that way

But I know that Medea Benjamin is a Jill Stein supporter along with many other Code Pink activists.

They just need some time. The President's description of Trump is accurate. How can anyone who supported Senator Sanders wind up supporting anyone other than Clinton in November. But, they need time.

I remember in 1968, following the assassination of Bobby Kennedy at the Ambassador Hotel, I had trouble switching to Gene McCarthy, but that's what I reluctantly did. I remember how I felt about Hubert Humphrey and how I thought he was no better than Nixon. Of course, that was a delusion produced by the heat of competition. My guy was McCarthy. Only McCarthy could save America. Humphrey was totally unacceptable. But, then Humphrey won the nomination. A lot of McCarthy supporters could not vote for Humphrey in November and we wound up with Tricky Dick.

With time, my delusions about Humphrey.evaporated. I look back on him now with tremendous admiration. He was a very early champion of civil rights. He was just a wonderful, decent human being, one of the finest politicians of my lifetime. But the McCarthy vs. Humphrey competition created that delusion in my young mind that Humphrey was totally unacceptable.

I learned a lot about politics and a lot about myself in 1968. The vast majority of Sanders fans will come around and nearly all of them will come around before November. But, these things can take time.

Policy-wise, there is little resemblance between Nixon and today's Republicans.

Imagine today's Republicans starting the E.P.A., a department they now want to abolish...

It was a reference to the previous post that so many Dems refused to vote for Humphrey the country was subjected to years of hell with Nixon.

Humphrey lost in part because the McCarthy supporters were too stubborn to come around in time. If that happens again, if they are stupid enough to allow themselves to be manipulated by Putin, we will be stuck with Trump for the next 4 years. Purests are not good at realizing they might have been wrong.

They do not like Obama. They do not like Hillary.

It is a fact that they don't like Obama and don't like Hillary.

What gives them the right to free speech?

Next thing you know, they'll be protesting the NRA.

and I heard the President's speech I would be ashamed and contrite. But that's just me.

Trying as best I can to put myself into the mind of the kind of person who would try to cause that kind of disruption I think I would feel overwhelmed and defeated. I would feel I had lost yet again because I had been battling impossible odds, battling a silver tongue evil genius in the position of absolute power. I would feel that the world is against me, and only because I am one of the few with a pure heart.

On the other hand Cha, had I been a normal Sanders delegate who came in to the convention with my love for Bernie, I would come away feeling that to some extent I have been lied to by my fellow Bernie supporters, that I hadn't really known Hillary Clinton after all.

I would be doing some serious thinking after listening to great speakers who know Hillary well, who know her talents and her inner motivation, who were talking from the bottom of their hearts, connecting with me. I would be very seriously questioning whether I had been fed a series of half truths and lies, whether I had gotten all wound up in someone else's hatred of Hillary. I think I would see that while I thought my image of Hillary was cast in stone, it is really made of crumbling sand.

let me repeat the words of our great president...



So yeah, I'd be feeling ok with expressing my 1st Amendment rights because my President just said it's ok

I am sure that you can envision our great President saying those words because he has.

Donald Trump essentially invited Putin to hack into American accounts to find lost emails. I am sure you would agree that was not a very bright thing for someone running to be President of the United States to say. However, he was certainly free to say it, but he should also be held responsible for his words by the American public.

People should also be able act like an idiot and try to disrupt some of the most important speeches of our lifetime of by extremely well respected public servants trying to convince the American people not to make the tragic mistake of putting Donald Trump in the White House.

I don't question the disruptivers' rights to express their views, I question their judgement, I question their timing, I question their willingness to try to suppress the right of self expression of others, and I question their selfishness in believing that their personal resentment of the irreparable actions of others is more important than the needs of their country.

By standing up for what they believed in, as those that cheered for Kaine and Clinton did.

....(and I am pretty sure some of them were not Democrats) would respect the free speech of others and had been taught better manners when they were young. But in our party when you act like an idiot, instead of throwing you out of the door we allow you to display your stupidity and your butt for the entire world to see. I'm sure that Bernie Sanders was proud of their behavior.

... what did they think they were accomplishing?

The alternative is the kind of convention we saw last week.

Democrats tune-in to Convention coverage to hear the scheduled speakers, NOT people in the audience who think what they have to say is more important.

Ever go to see a stand-up comic, only to have his punchlines drowned out by a heckler? Ever go to a concert, only to have some yahoos in the back yelling, "No, we want to hear a different song"?

If your idea of "free speech" is NOT allowing someone else to speak, you're missing the point entirely.

I was only stating the obvious - or what should be obvious.

are you an authoritarian?

"We all need to be as vocal and as organized as Bernie Sanders's supporters have been"

I follow the lead of my beloved President here. He's cool with it, I'm cool with it

how those of you who disagree and think it's OKAY to disrupt what's supposed to be a celebration with a bunch of tantrums, automatically cite the First Amendment? Better yet, because we disagree with you, we're authoritarian. That's a crock of shit.

... and NOT about the year-long conduct of the Bernie campaign?

Yeah, right.

The First Amendment is about freedom of speech - it is NOT about drowning out the speech of others who have an equal right to be heard, especially in a situation where speakers have been scheduled to have their say.

When you attend a Broadway play, you are entitled to hear that play. Having a bunch of jerks in the audience yelling over the actors' dialogue is NOT freedom of speech - it is disrupting the right of others to HEAR what they came to hear.

Thinking that Obama was condoning the behaviour of obnoxious disruptors is evidence that you don't know anything about what the man stands for.

What does 'free speech' have to do with the party's official programming? Its not the appropriate venue to stage protest rallies, and it way too late for caucus or townhall meetings, and its disrespectful and rude to interrupt the invited speakers, disrupt the presentations, or try to hijack the ceremonies.

So hopefully either the disruptive ones were removed from the hall or were inspired by the speeches tonight to stop disrupting.

tomorrow night so they can bbbbbbooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
HRC.
Because after that its obscurity.

I am at the convention and a really ignorant bernie supporter is sitting in front of a friend in the Texas delegation. This kid is crazy and wants to alienate people