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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:45 PM Jul 2016

Hillary Clinton is bad at speeches for the exact reasons she'd be a good president

Updated by Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias matt@vox.com Jul 28, 2016, 2:00p

Hillary Clinton has one job tonight: Deliver a kick-ass speech.

Unfortunately, it’s just not a job that suits her talents. In a rational world, "rousing convention speech" would be a job permanently bestowed on Barack Obama who, after all, got himself elected president largely on the strength of a rousing convention speech. Bill Clinton is very good at it, too. Joe Biden is good. Michelle Obama is great. Beyond the top ranks, Cory Booker shows a lot of promise. Nobody sensible would have watched Gavin Newsom in the early evening Wednesday, but he’s really good, too.

Clinton, by contrast, struggles with this stuff. And it’s not just because her delivery isn’t perfect; in many ways I think it’s underrated. It’s that her speeches themselves often aren’t very good. They’re over-stuffed with ideas that don’t necessarily relate, and flattened out like a computer merge of a dozen different people’s speeches rather than reflecting a distinctive voice or viewpoint.

That follows from the way she works. It’s a process that’s really bad at delivering memorable oratory, but actually makes a lot of sense as a model for running the executive branch. As Politico’s Annie Karni has detailed, Clinton favors a broadly collaborative approach to speechwriting involving three or four campaign staffers, a similar number of outside consultants, some longtime friends and associates not formally on the campaign, a couple of big-name ex-speechwriters and, of course, her husband. And in addition to the more-is-more philosophy of who gets input on the speech, she favors a more-is-more approach to content as well.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
4. You mean the army of speakers who made me cry while they were at the podium?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jul 2016

This has been a great week.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
3. I just read this , and it reminded me of my love of good policy and good government
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jul 2016

But I should confess, I spent the final decade of the twentieth century as a Clintonista!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Something inside me says she's going to surprise us all.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jul 2016

Since the import of the moment isn't lost on her, I presume she's spent her days off preparing

I haven't watched much of the convention since the roll call, but for her and this moment I'll be staying up late.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. She has improved a lot
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jul 2016

She's given several A+ speeches in the primaries, I think she's going to really surprise the national media because they haven't been paying attention to how good she's become as a public speaker.

This works to her benefit, she is a very skilled speaker, but there will be low expectations. After they will be stunned.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
8. Well this would explain why her speech giving has declined (in my opinion).
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jul 2016

First Lady Hillary was a fire-cracker. She gave the University of Michigan commencement in 1993, which was excellent:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?40422-1/university-michigan-commencement-address

I think this is because her speeches contained more of her own personal voice and reflection.

She needs to have fewer handlers and speech makers and more of herself.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
10. The expectations, generally, are that she isn't a great speechmaker
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jul 2016

Obama hit it out of the park, she needs to hit at least a double. What's advantageous is, if she hits a single it'll be perceived as a double, or more.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
11. She gives too much policy detail
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jul 2016

Which goes to the author's point that she is full of ideas that will make her a great president, but it sucks when audiences are looking for one liners to clap about. Add to that most Americans have an attention span of about 10 seconds these days and when she's giving 5 points about what she will do about student loan debt or whatever most people fall asleep or start thinking about what's for dinner halfway through point #2.

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