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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:45 PM Jul 2016

Everyone-CNN is now the place to go!

I've been a loyal MSNBC viewer since 2007 but they've now jumped the shark to Trumpland.

It's stunning that Rachel Maddow supports Donald Trump now. WTF Rachel?

CNN, on the other hand, I've always seen as anti-Obama. They've really switched to being fair this cycle with a pro-Clinton lean. David Axelrod, Patti Solis Doyle and Van Jones are great on the panel along with John King.

They also provide pretty much gavel-to-gavel coverage with minimal talking head disruption during key moments. They carried MOM's speech yesterday live.

Go with CNN this cycle. They're fair to our nominee unlike apparent Trump lovers Rachel Maddow and Brian Williams. CNN lowered my blood pressure and they'll lower yours too!

You don't need to go to CSPAN, which actually is Republican created, FYI.

You're upset now? Imagine how you'll feel when Rachel and Brian slobber all over their hero, Donald September 26th after the 1st debate. CNN will at least be fair.

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Everyone-CNN is now the place to go! (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 OP
Hmmm Are you working for CNN? Not buying this one. C-Span for me as it has been through michaz Jul 2016 #1
non-commercial TV all the way for me still_one Jul 2016 #27
No I work for AccuTran Global and Mmodal. n/t. NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 #29
Then you should know that CSPAN was launched in 1979. lapucelle Jul 2016 #52
I watch NPR & PBS Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #60
Link proof that Rachel supports Drumpf Cooley Hurd Jul 2016 #2
She called Bill Clinton rude, offensive and strange NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 #9
iow you made it up cuz you're mad eShirl Jul 2016 #12
She might've not liked the Big Dog's speech... Cooley Hurd Jul 2016 #13
MSNBC disrespects so many of our speakers. Shame on them. nt glennward Jul 2016 #3
I want to watch the convention without any side commentary. Siwsan Jul 2016 #4
I'm sticking with C-SPAN. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #5
Also sticking with C-SPAN. Nice try. nt lady lib Jul 2016 #51
Maddow does not support Trump. woolldog Jul 2016 #6
I didn't think so either until she called Bill Clinton NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 #21
She's just an uber feminist. woolldog Jul 2016 #33
Rethink your wording, wooldog. Many DUers are what you might call "uber Feminist." CTyankee Jul 2016 #48
You are being ridiculous jcgoldie Jul 2016 #40
If one only heard that one comment that Rachel made after the speech... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #55
compared to MSRNC, CNN's group looks like The School of Athens geek tragedy Jul 2016 #7
Can I have a link leftynyc Jul 2016 #8
After Bill Clinton's speech NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 #15
I saw her after Bill speech leftynyc Jul 2016 #17
you might not be as good a mindreader as you think eShirl Jul 2016 #18
I never in a million years would ever have questioned NewsCenter28 Jul 2016 #24
your logical leap is a bit of a moonshot, wouldn't you say? eShirl Jul 2016 #30
Yes, we noticed what you call the "sismance", too! LisaM Jul 2016 #32
come the fuck on. People can and should continue to actually say what they are thinking. JCanete Jul 2016 #42
Good lawd, Billy Mays, I think you are being way, way OTT. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #19
sticking with C-Span DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #10
I am watching C-SPAN Lifelong Protester Jul 2016 #11
I will keep watching CSPAN and make up my own mind. MADem Jul 2016 #14
No thanks. I'll stick with the HD live feed on Direct TV 347. stopbush Jul 2016 #16
I may not agree with your reasoning, but I much prefer CNN these days unitedwethrive Jul 2016 #20
Agree Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #22
PBS-NPR partnership hasn't been bad. Even David Brooks has been sane & generally complimentary hlthe2b Jul 2016 #23
Mara Liasson has been hard to take sometimes. Lochloosa Jul 2016 #35
I don't need talking heads telling me what to think. kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #25
there is also this commentary free link to demconvention dot com/live msongs Jul 2016 #26
just watch the stream directly. You don't need "professionals" to tell you what you're seeing. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #28
LOL! Have not a clue about the road truckers either! Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #54
The Deadly Rainforest Trumperpillar! Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #56
I prefer David Axelrod and Van Jones over anyone on M$NBC Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #31
Maddow does not support Trump. I don't like MSNBC's current policy of covering Trump like a rash. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #34
CSPAN provides gavel to gavel coverage without comment, and on the night of the sit-in... Hekate Jul 2016 #36
We watched CSPAN. Great sound and visual. Hortensis Jul 2016 #59
BBC. deathrind Jul 2016 #37
Rachel Maddow supports Trump?! Link,please! DianaForRussFeingold Jul 2016 #38
I have enjoyed CNN's after-coverage. Well done. ALSO demconvention.com and DirecTV #347 Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #39
I might disagree with your reasoning but CNN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>M$NBC. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #41
Did something change on CNN in the last 5 years? I remember it sucking pretty hard. JCanete Jul 2016 #44
CNN has been better with the exception of anderson cooper who seems intellectually challenged MariaThinks Jul 2016 #43
Another thumbs-up for C-span. femmocrat Jul 2016 #45
C-span is great, but I do enjoy Van Jones. Tatiana Jul 2016 #46
I agree. We've been watching a LOT more CNN these days than MSNBC. beaglelover Jul 2016 #47
"You don't need to go to CSPAN" BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #49
I'm happy with C-span, they don't tell me what I just saw Motley13 Jul 2016 #50
Jeffrey Lord is as bad as Hugh Hewitt redstateblues Jul 2016 #53
C-Span is excellent if you BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #57
Not this morning. CNN a downer compared to MSNBC this morning. They are awestruck! nt glennward Jul 2016 #58

michaz

(1,352 posts)
1. Hmmm Are you working for CNN? Not buying this one. C-Span for me as it has been through
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jul 2016

this whole convention.

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
52. Then you should know that CSPAN was launched in 1979.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jul 2016

Jimmy Carter was president.

I don't "have to go" to CPSAN. I choose to go there.

I'd rather hear the speeches and see the videos that CNN is cutting away form than see commercials and listen to superficial observations from overpaid talking heads.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
60. I watch NPR & PBS
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:56 AM
Jul 2016

I don't have access to any of the cable stations. NPR & PBS did a great job of commercial free coverage.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
9. She called Bill Clinton rude, offensive and strange
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jul 2016

After his speech. Check the transcript. I'll never forgive her for that. Ever. Not ever.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
21. I didn't think so either until she called Bill Clinton
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jul 2016

Rude and offensive. Or said that he offended her. She needs to clarify that.

Even Gloria Borger is fair to us on CNN.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
33. She's just an uber feminist.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jul 2016

That criticism was annoying but no harm intended I'm sure. She's aware how regressive a Trump administration would be to gay rights among other things.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
48. Rethink your wording, wooldog. Many DUers are what you might call "uber Feminist."
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jul 2016

I will repeat to you what HRC once said "Humanism is feminism and feminism is humanism."

Do you think anyone can be an "uber humanist"?

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
40. You are being ridiculous
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

To say Rachel Maddow supports Trump because she was critical of a single speech given by Bill Clinton at the DNC is damn ridiculous. Where is Sarah Silverman when we need her?

 

StraightRazor

(260 posts)
55. If one only heard that one comment that Rachel made after the speech...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 01:16 AM
Jul 2016

and hasn't watched show after show after show of Rachel hitting Trump harder than anyone on the network aside from Lawrence O'Donnell, then maybe, maybe an argument can be made that she was tougher than she needed to be on Bill. But to call Rachel a Trump supporter is indeed ridiculous.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
15. After Bill Clinton's speech
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

It's hard to forgive her for that. It was thinly veiled but still there. She called Bill Clinton rude, strange and offensive. She needs to retract that.

I at best see her as a Stein supporter now until she clarifies what she meant on Tuesday night.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
17. I saw her after Bill speech
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jul 2016

and didn't see a thing that says she was supporting comrade donnie. Serve up the link or just go ahead and admit you were being hyperbolic and posting complete bullshit.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
24. I never in a million years would ever have questioned
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jul 2016

Rachel of all people until she said Bill Clinton was rude and offensive. Saying such a thing at this time of all times is unforgivable.

She's also buddy buddy with Bush stooge Nicole Wallace. Have you see the 'sismance' those 2 have going? And Nicole is no friend.

She said on Morning Joe July 6th that Comey's rantings tilted her back to Trump, Nicole did.

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
30. your logical leap is a bit of a moonshot, wouldn't you say?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jul 2016

criticism of bill clinton equals she supports trump? c'mon.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
32. Yes, we noticed what you call the "sismance", too!
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

I've noticed it before, actually. I think it's diminishing Rachel's perspective (I don't think she supports Trump, though).

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
42. come the fuck on. People can and should continue to actually say what they are thinking.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

I don't want propaganda from my reporters or pundits. I want to trust that they are being honest. Was what she said stupid, overly sensitive, or distorted by her lens? Maybe. As a Bernie supporter it's not like I have undying love for the woman who made her allegiance pretty clear during the primaries, and I understand that she works for a corporatist network that has been very pro-establishment, and maybe she's not into rocking too many boats, but she can voice a problem she has with one of mine or your candidates without us being reactionary, "burn the witch," children about it.

Now if you don't find what she says very on the nose, interesting or informative these days, that's a good reason to not tune in any more. I don't for those reasons. But to call for people to tune into CNN of all places--the place of "we report the talking points but don't bother to challenge them, you decide"--because there is only room now for lock-step solidarity and group-think, is not a good idea. Please listen to yourself.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. I will keep watching CSPAN and make up my own mind.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

I'll watch CNN when I want to see the odd news report....

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
16. No thanks. I'll stick with the HD live feed on Direct TV 347.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

Gavel to gavel coverage with no pundits or even TV hosts.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
20. I may not agree with your reasoning, but I much prefer CNN these days
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jul 2016

if I want to hear commentary and immediate reaction to events. Otherwise, I'm enjoying C-SPAN.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
22. Agree
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jul 2016

CNN has been good. They have 1 Con on who gets to tebut everything anyone says, but that's fine too.

MSNBC is finished.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
23. PBS-NPR partnership hasn't been bad. Even David Brooks has been sane & generally complimentary
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jul 2016

He obviously REALLY detests what Trump is doing to the REPUGS and it has made him into a pretty damned decent pundit this go-around.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
25. I don't need talking heads telling me what to think.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jul 2016

I've watched the whole thing via the DNC website live feed and it's certainly a breath of fresh air.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. just watch the stream directly. You don't need "professionals" to tell you what you're seeing.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jul 2016

I stopped watching "Cable Newz" in 2004, haven't gone back. Cut the cable tv cord entitrely a year or two ago, don't miss it a bit. While I may not be up to date on the latest antics of the ice road truckers, I have somehow survived.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
54. LOL! Have not a clue about the road truckers either!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 01:06 AM
Jul 2016

Couldn't agree more about rejecting the "professionals" whose job it is to tell me what I should think. I wish I could cut the cord too, but my internet connection is a genuine tragedy of ruralness.

This thing moves faster.



Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
34. Maddow does not support Trump. I don't like MSNBC's current policy of covering Trump like a rash.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jul 2016

and their coverage that focuses on any anti-Clinton activity around the Convention while ignoring the ultra super majority of people who support her.

For that reason, I've chosen not to watch their Convention Coverage.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
36. CSPAN provides gavel to gavel coverage without comment, and on the night of the sit-in...
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jul 2016

...in Congress, when Paul Ryan cut off the power in the chamber, CSPAN continued to broadcast using people's Face Book accounts and other media off their cell phones.

They are hardly "Republican."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. We watched CSPAN. Great sound and visual.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:38 AM
Jul 2016

None of the muckraking cutting away to disturbances and the "very serious people" talking them up, making much more of them than they were. Though, by not turning the cameras on the section most of them were in, occasionally making a bit less of their impact also.

I did cut to CNN and MSNBC inoccasionally to see what they were saying. I missed the promised final interview (oh, darn ) of some foolish girl who proudly exposed her many misunderstandings on national TV to see if she'd "changed her mind." Hope her friends convince her this too will pass. At least she cares.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
39. I have enjoyed CNN's after-coverage. Well done. ALSO demconvention.com and DirecTV #347
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jul 2016

also offer convention coverage without ANY commercials or prattling bobble-heads "telling" you about the convention instead of just letting you actually watch it.



 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
44. Did something change on CNN in the last 5 years? I remember it sucking pretty hard.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jul 2016

Not that I'd go to bat for MSNBC, but at least there was less pretense of impartiality on that network. CNN was ineffectual to the point of enablement, which is no surprise given who pays their bills too.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
43. CNN has been better with the exception of anderson cooper who seems intellectually challenged
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jul 2016

and desparate to elevate trump.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
45. Another thumbs-up for C-span.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jul 2016

I have even watched them when the convention was off-session for a lot of interesting features. For example, they interviewed Rickey Minor today! Very cool.

Enjoyed their tour of the Constitution Center, too.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
46. C-span is great, but I do enjoy Van Jones.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jul 2016

And Axelrod usually provides cogent analysis as well.

Plus, from what I have seen, Anderson does talk over or spoil significant moments.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
47. I agree. We've been watching a LOT more CNN these days than MSNBC.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jul 2016

First of all, we can't stand Brian Williams. We used to like Rachel, but now, not so much. I do personally like Chris Mathews and Lawrence O'Donnell. But CNN's coverage of the conventions has been much better then MSNBC's.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
49. "You don't need to go to CSPAN"
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jul 2016


'Cause doing so takes ratings away from CNN, which has gone so far away from Ted Turner's original vision that it is as unrecognizable as MSNBC is.

CSPAN.

No John King pointing at screens. No Wolf Blitzer making sure he appears in every show.

I want to see all the speeches that the talking heads talk over. I don't need them to "interpret it" for me.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
50. I'm happy with C-span, they don't tell me what I just saw
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jul 2016


After the convention I go to MSNBC & to see their slant on things.



BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
57. C-Span is excellent if you
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:46 AM
Jul 2016

want to avoid the mostly inane commentary of the "experts."

But I was interested to note that when I was watching the video (not in real time) of Bernie's speech on Monday, they identified him as "I-Vermont."

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