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global1

(25,252 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:09 PM Jul 2016

If Bernie Was The Dem Nominee - The Repugs Would Have Unloaded On Him For Being A Socialist....

and try and paint him as a Commie.

Now we have Trump cozying up to Putin and the Repug Platform making some concessions with respect to Russia - why aren't we painting Trump and the Repugs as Commie's?

Is this how he is going to make america great - by cozying up to the Russians?

Why would such a thing work against Bernie and the Dems and not the other way around?

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If Bernie Was The Dem Nominee - The Repugs Would Have Unloaded On Him For Being A Socialist.... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2016 OP
I don't think it would work either way. David__77 Jul 2016 #1
Bernie would have been absolutely destroyed in the GE calguy Jul 2016 #2
Why?....nt global1 Jul 2016 #3
That's just your opinion. John Poet Jul 2016 #4
Still fighting the primary is against the new rules. B Calm Jul 2016 #5
I don't think Trump is a commie, but a bully and idiot treestar Jul 2016 #6
If Bernie was our nominee, this convention would have a totally different feel stopbush Jul 2016 #7
Hey - The Primary Is Over - Hillary Won - No Need To Continually Take Down Bernie..... global1 Jul 2016 #8
Your OP said "If Bernie was the Dem nominee" stopbush Jul 2016 #17
What exactly about Russia under Putin is "communist"? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2016 #9
One Could Say The Same For Bernie.... global1 Jul 2016 #10
the median age of the US population is 37.8 Spider Jerusalem Jul 2016 #13
Oh oh oh! I know this one! Bucky Jul 2016 #16
Hard to say what would have happened Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #11
What else is new? Fuck em. TheKentuckian Jul 2016 #12
Because Putin and Trump aren't communists or socialists mythology Jul 2016 #14
Like they aren't saying that about Clinton (and saying worse too) Bucky Jul 2016 #15

David__77

(23,420 posts)
1. I don't think it would work either way.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016

The Republicans also called Obama a socialist and many believe he indeed is a socialist; a MUSLIM one at that! I don't think the Cold War thing is going to work either direction, and it occurs to me as nonsense.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
4. That's just your opinion.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

Now we'll never know for sure.


At this point, it looks like there'd have been "two commies" running against each other, so it seems the effect would be negated.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. I don't think Trump is a commie, but a bully and idiot
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jul 2016

Putin isn't really so commie as authoritarian.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
7. If Bernie was our nominee, this convention would have a totally different feel
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jul 2016

and message.

The focus would be much narrower. You wouldn't have the parade of Clinton-supporting pols making speeches and endorsements. May not even have a speech by Obama, as Sanders has not been the most-enthusiastic supporter.

Indeed, the message would be much more negative. "Stronger Together" would have been replaced by a "Them against us" theme.

The nominee gets to set the tone and message of the convention.

Think about it.

global1

(25,252 posts)
8. Hey - The Primary Is Over - Hillary Won - No Need To Continually Take Down Bernie.....
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jul 2016

and besides that was not an answer to my OP.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
17. Your OP said "If Bernie was the Dem nominee"
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 01:46 AM
Jul 2016

you then speculated on what would have happened.

I simply followed your lead and offered my own speculation.

global1

(25,252 posts)
10. One Could Say The Same For Bernie....
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jul 2016

What exactly about Bernie is 'socialist' in the definition that the Repugs would have used against him. And you know they would have used that against him. And many people would get sucked in by their attacks and be turned against him.

I think more people would equate communist with Russia as Russia has been our adversaries for pretty much all of my lifetime and I'm 67 y/o.

I'm just saying that if the Repugs would use such an attack against Bernie - why don't the Dems launch such an attack against Trump.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
13. the median age of the US population is 37.8
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jul 2016

I'm under 40; the Berlin Wall came down when I was 12, the Soviet Union ceased to exist before i started high school. I don't think of Russia as "communist" and I rather suspect that most people under 50 or so probably don't, either.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
11. Hard to say what would have happened
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jul 2016

Maybe in a "normal" election year they could get some traction on the whole "commie" thing but Trump is such a disorganized clusterfuck that he probably couldn't get many effective attacks off the ground. I'm sure either Clinton or Sanders would beat Trump without much difficulty.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
12. What else is new? Fuck em.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:15 PM
Jul 2016

You look at the bunch of idiot, racist, hateful jackasses and can muster a fuck to give to them saying anything?

It is a few decades past time to treat them like what they are regressive, radical, delusional, vile, dangerous, and hateful enemies of the nation unequivocally.

They'd wish I'd call them a commie, if I'd call them a child of God it would be to remind them to start acting like it.

Stop cowering at whatever those putrid piles of garbage have to spout! Fuck them.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. Because Putin and Trump aren't communists or socialists
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jul 2016

They are authoritarian asshats who have no business being in charge of anything. Go after them for that, for being bigots and assholes.

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
15. Like they aren't saying that about Clinton (and saying worse too)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jul 2016

"Crooked Hillary" is probably a stronger attack than "Red Bernie" or whatever the Citrus Mussolini would've come up with. This was consistently borne kout by the polls at the start of the summer.

But never mind that. That's last month's argument. We have a nominee and our job now is to unify & fight for our Constitution. Not to bicker over old fights that ended weeks ago.

Lets go win this together

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