2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Bernie Was The Dem Nominee - The Repugs Would Have Unloaded On Him For Being A Socialist....
and try and paint him as a Commie.
Now we have Trump cozying up to Putin and the Repug Platform making some concessions with respect to Russia - why aren't we painting Trump and the Repugs as Commie's?
Is this how he is going to make america great - by cozying up to the Russians?
Why would such a thing work against Bernie and the Dems and not the other way around?
David__77
(23,420 posts)The Republicans also called Obama a socialist and many believe he indeed is a socialist; a MUSLIM one at that! I don't think the Cold War thing is going to work either direction, and it occurs to me as nonsense.
calguy
(5,313 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)Now we'll never know for sure.
At this point, it looks like there'd have been "two commies" running against each other, so it seems the effect would be negated.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Putin isn't really so commie as authoritarian.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)and message.
The focus would be much narrower. You wouldn't have the parade of Clinton-supporting pols making speeches and endorsements. May not even have a speech by Obama, as Sanders has not been the most-enthusiastic supporter.
Indeed, the message would be much more negative. "Stronger Together" would have been replaced by a "Them against us" theme.
The nominee gets to set the tone and message of the convention.
Think about it.
global1
(25,252 posts)and besides that was not an answer to my OP.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)you then speculated on what would have happened.
I simply followed your lead and offered my own speculation.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Have you been asleep for the past 25 years?
global1
(25,252 posts)What exactly about Bernie is 'socialist' in the definition that the Repugs would have used against him. And you know they would have used that against him. And many people would get sucked in by their attacks and be turned against him.
I think more people would equate communist with Russia as Russia has been our adversaries for pretty much all of my lifetime and I'm 67 y/o.
I'm just saying that if the Repugs would use such an attack against Bernie - why don't the Dems launch such an attack against Trump.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)I'm under 40; the Berlin Wall came down when I was 12, the Soviet Union ceased to exist before i started high school. I don't think of Russia as "communist" and I rather suspect that most people under 50 or so probably don't, either.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)Government run national healthcare for all her citizens!
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)Maybe in a "normal" election year they could get some traction on the whole "commie" thing but Trump is such a disorganized clusterfuck that he probably couldn't get many effective attacks off the ground. I'm sure either Clinton or Sanders would beat Trump without much difficulty.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)You look at the bunch of idiot, racist, hateful jackasses and can muster a fuck to give to them saying anything?
It is a few decades past time to treat them like what they are regressive, radical, delusional, vile, dangerous, and hateful enemies of the nation unequivocally.
They'd wish I'd call them a commie, if I'd call them a child of God it would be to remind them to start acting like it.
Stop cowering at whatever those putrid piles of garbage have to spout! Fuck them.
mythology
(9,527 posts)They are authoritarian asshats who have no business being in charge of anything. Go after them for that, for being bigots and assholes.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)"Crooked Hillary" is probably a stronger attack than "Red Bernie" or whatever the Citrus Mussolini would've come up with. This was consistently borne kout by the polls at the start of the summer.
But never mind that. That's last month's argument. We have a nominee and our job now is to unify & fight for our Constitution. Not to bicker over old fights that ended weeks ago.
Lets go win this together