2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClose States That Weren't Close
There was a lot of talk over tge past few weeks about romney having momentum and making gains in blue states. Lets take a quick look at the close states that werent actually close
Michigan Obama +7
Pennsylvania Obama +5.2
Wisconsin Obama +7
Iowa Obama +5.5
Maine Obama +16
New Hampshire Obama +6
Minnesota Obama +11
Nevada Obama + 6.6
Colorado Obama +4.5
Fuck the media. Bunch of lying scum bags
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)because they didn't want to lose their jobs,
or they had no 8 hour parking spot and didn't
want to get their car towed.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Wednesdays
(17,402 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)They conned everyone to keep the money rolling in.
It's an argument for profound campaign finance reform.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)A friend who collects campaign buttons was complaining about the high cost of Republican buttons this year.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)I've been preaching about this MSM horse race tactic the whole time, but there was always a little part of me that wondered if they could be right. Never again.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)Once Pennsylvania was called, they made it pretty clear that they thought Romney had no chance.
I was texting my dad all night and he kept complaining because i would send something like "Obama won Wisconsin" and my dad would say 20 minutes later that MsNBC finally called it. He finally gave up and moved on to a different next work. He said they were terrible last night.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It was a party. Cenk was on with Stephanie Miller and it was a laugh riot.
My fiancee on the other hand was watching MSNBC and was crying when I called her. They kept saying Romney was ahead or they were tied and they were talking about who would be in Romney's cabinet and what it would mean for the country and then all of a sudden they said Obama won.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)of pathetic, lying assholes in the pockets of the 1%.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)us into believing our usually safe blue states were going to flip to the flip flopper.
And congrats to Ohio, VA, NV, Iowa, PA, MI, WI and maybe Florida for staying with the program.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)outsideworld
(601 posts)Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)hey, so what. I didn't think Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, or Nevada were close anyway. However, by mentioning these states as close it got out the vote.
I'd rather be worried and vote then think this election is over, not vote, and then lose.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)blue states being close. PA, MN, and MI were never in doubt in my mind.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)Listen to Nate Silver above all else now. I think at this point he has been elevated to the position of "infallible". Until he screws up royally, which I doubt will happen, I will trust exactly what he is saying. If he says a dem is going to win, that dem will win, if he says a dem will lose, that dem will lose.
Chuck Todd on the other hand can go fuck himself, with is "toss up" bullshit. Him and everyone like him. I will never, ever, ever listen to what the MSM has to say about an election again. They are always wrong.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)The initial exit poll that CNN showed for Minnesota had Obama winning by only 3. How could it be that far off? I have heard of exit polls being wrong but not that wrong.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)NBC said they didn't even bother with exit polling there. It was "too early to call" for quite awhile but that was only because the vote counting was extremely slow
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Also, is this practice of actually releasing the head to head exit poll numbers when the polls close new? I don't remember them doing that in the past. It does not make sense to me to do it unless they are third wave, which at that point they usually are not.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Not a chance.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)more republicans than democrats voted early. I think we lost margins in OH, FL and VA due to voter suppression, such as reduced early voting in OH and FL, no early voting in Va, long lines. That easily could have reduced the margins.