2016 Postmortem

vinny9698

(1,016 posts) Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:16 PM Jul 2016

Fatigue is setting in. Trump has not worked hard all his life.

What are the effects of fatigue and their relationship to work?

Because fatigue cannot be "measured", it is difficult to separate the effects of long working hours or lack of sleep to any changes in accident or injury rates.
Trump has lived a life of luxury all his life. Being catered to. He has not worked a hard day in his pampered life.
He won't do bus tours, won't prep for debates nor speeches, calling names and "Making America Great Again" is his only strategy.
The ordeal of a full time campaign is not what his body nor his mind is used to. Fatigue is setting in and that can have real negative consequences.

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/fatigue.html

However, studies report the effects of fatigue as:

reduced decision making ability,
reduced ability to do complex planning,
reduced communication skills,
reduced productivity / performance,
reduced attention and vigilance,
reduced ability to handle stress on the job,
reduced reaction time - both in speed and thought,
loss of memory or the ability to recall details,
failure to respond to changes in surroundings or information provided,
unable to stay awake (e.g., falling asleep while operating machinery or driving a vehicle),
increased tendency for risk-taking,
increased forgetfulness,
increased errors in judgement,
increased sick time, absenteeism, rate of turnover,
increased medical costs, and
increased accident rates.

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Fatigue is setting in. Trump has not worked hard all his life. (Original Post) vinny9698 Jul 2016 OP

If he can't handle the campaign, how would manage four years of the Presidency? liberal N proud Jul 2016 #1

Delegate to his children.. HipChick Jul 2016 #2

We know how he would handle it... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #3

He won't, he will let his underlings do all the thinking vinny9698 Jul 2016 #4

It was actually conventional bombings.... reACTIONary Jul 2016 #10

Trump says he only sleeps four hours a night, has for years. He may have sleep-deprivation psychosis Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #5

That would explain part of it. nt OhZone Jul 2016 #6

except nothing he says has any relationship with truth griloco Jul 2016 #13

Seriously, that's a symptom. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #18

Also, and purely speculation on my part, I think there is a serious problem in the marriage. monmouth4 Jul 2016 #7

He certainly did not come to her defense in a hurry. Chemisse Jul 2016 #8

She's an ornament. n/t Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author OldRedneck Jul 2016 #12

I've thought he's been popping pills but tom_kelly Jul 2016 #11

That's a 4 El Shaman Jul 2016 #14

It'll be Pence they are voting for. Ilsa Jul 2016 #15

Dyslexics like Trump and I thrive on new information. That applegrove Jul 2016 #16

That might explain some of his campaign's post-convention weirdness D23MIURG23 Jul 2016 #17

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)

1. If he can't handle the campaign, how would manage four years of the Presidency?

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:18 PM

Jul 2016

HipChick

(25,485 posts)

2. Delegate to his children..

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:22 PM

Jul 2016

He'll just be a figurehead..Making America great again..!

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)

3. We know how he would handle it...

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:23 PM

Jul 2016

which is why we are voting for Hillary! Well, one of the many reasons!

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)

4. He won't, he will let his underlings do all the thinking

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:24 PM

Jul 2016

Just like Nixon, Reagan, GWB, the vice presidents will run the country. Trump will break the record of number of days on vacation. Nixon had Kissinger, Reagan had Nancy, GWB had Cheney.
There is a story that Nixon ordered a nuclear strike while he was in one of his drunken binges, Kissinger just ignored him. The next morning Nixon had forgotten all of it.

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)

10. It was actually conventional bombings....

Reply to vinny9698 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:02 PM

Jul 2016

..... that he ordered. The military leadership would make some excuse, such as the weather, to delay, and when he sobered up he would forget all about it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)

5. Trump says he only sleeps four hours a night, has for years. He may have sleep-deprivation psychosis

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:28 PM

Jul 2016

OhZone

(3,212 posts)

6. That would explain part of it. nt

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:03 PM

Jul 2016

griloco

(832 posts)

13. except nothing he says has any relationship with truth

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:08 PM

Jul 2016

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)

18. Seriously, that's a symptom. . . . nt

Reply to griloco (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:08 AM

Jul 2016

monmouth4

(9,709 posts)

7. Also, and purely speculation on my part, I think there is a serious problem in the marriage.

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:04 PM

Jul 2016

Melania was devastated when the plagiarism thing came out, blames him I'm sure, etc.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)

8. He certainly did not come to her defense in a hurry.

Reply to monmouth4 (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:39 PM

Jul 2016

I don't think he cares about her that much.

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)

9. She's an ornament. n/t

Reply to Chemisse (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:57 PM

Jul 2016

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tom_kelly

(962 posts)

11. I've thought he's been popping pills but

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:11 PM

Jul 2016

the effects of fatigue listed seem similar to what we've seen. I still think he's overdoing it on the pills. It may be just me though.

El Shaman

(583 posts)

14. That's a 4

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:14 PM

Jul 2016

letter word to this douche!!

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)

15. It'll be Pence they are voting for.

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:28 PM

Jul 2016

And Benedict Donald will let him do all of the heavy lifting as President.

applegrove

(118,778 posts)

16. Dyslexics like Trump and I thrive on new information. That

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:36 AM

Jul 2016

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is when we come alive. We become 'thick' when faced with the same thing again and again with no chance to be creative. He needs new stuff to look at things with fresh eyes. Probably why Trump asked Kasich to be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy when he asked him to be VP. Leaving Trump to be responsible for novelty=ideas=making America great again. Trump is losing interest quite quickly. And he knows it. Everytime he gives an unscripted speech, which he likes, he gets nailed for refusing to follow the norms. He doesn't want to be in the norms with those teleprompter speeches. Those are the doldrums for him...his sail has no wind. Trump should be a muse. Not the president. But he is narcissistic on top of being dyslexic. He can't inspire/help out others (as a muse) or serve (as a president should know and study the details of policy) because then it is not all about him and how great his ideas are.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)

17. That might explain some of his campaign's post-convention weirdness

Reply to vinny9698 (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:13 AM

Jul 2016

Rachel Maddow was talking about this on Friday. He sent his son to a county fair near Philadelphia Mississippi, and apparently canceled his "Hispanic Engagement Tour". She was commenting that none of this crap makes any sense. Maybe he figures he deserves a vacation after the convention clusterfuck, and he can't be bothered to think about what he should be doing next.

I can't wait for the debates...

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