Figures.

So sad and by their actions negate what BS was standing for.

Next time, we absolutely must not permit outsiders to serve as delegates. Closed primaries and no more caucuses. Require all delegates to have been party members at least one full year before the primary begins. Inclusiveness should not include infiltration.

who are capable of acting like civil and responsible adults.

These are delegates. There is no excuse. That is a privilege to represent voters. It entails responsibility. I know many young people who would be clear on this concept.

who soaked up the notions that the party was totally corrupt, that HRC literally stole state after state by vote tampering while the press colluded. What kind of mind believes that stuff?

They deluded themselves that they were a majority who were going to save our totally corrupt nation from the brink until Bernie turned out to be corrupt too and sold out to the evil Democrats.

Of course some sold their passes to a giant party finalizing and celebrating their betrayal and defeat, as they'd see it. It seems obvious now that many would. I actually suspect that some who purchased were glad to be part of history and had one of the more special times of their lives.

Just like to think names are being taken, etc.

firearms were prohibited (except for police). (This was the entrance for the elected delegates: I don't know about the superdelegates since I wasn't one.)

No caucuses, yes. BUT.... I do think we should remove Supers. I understand their purpose but still.. it seems kind of elitist to give some Democrats that much more say over the rank and file. Just my opinion.

Trump is actually the best argument for super delegates EVER.

You can bet the Republicans will have some form of superdelegates next time around to prevent another Trump from arising.

gofundme accounts in order to attend.

Why did they blur their faces?

There were a lot of people who would have loved to be there and wouldn't have made asses out of themselves.

as long as I've been involved, there really never has been.

It's pretty much a free for all on who gets elected. In the past generally people who had been involved with the party or various campaigns would be elected so in that sense they were known and it was considered sort of a reward (not a popular concept now that everyone deserves a trophy).

This year it was out of control (for both campaigns, but worse for Bernie). Long term activists - those who could be counted on to be there when the convention was over and some who had really worked their butts off for Bernie's campaign - were completely shut out. I don't know if it was as bad for Clinton supporters.

I heard of no problems associated with the Clinton campaign. As for the Long-term Bernie people, it was the disruptors who caused them to be shut out. I won't call the disruptors Bernie supporters because I am convinced they were not.

way more than there were slots for and, apparently, a good many who decided on the spur of the moment to run (though admittedly this was more of problem on the Sanders side).

There wasn't actual disruption on either side - just too many people deciding to run without any real clue about the process.

All delegates in our state were vetted by the campaigns. After that it is the state delegates that decide.

from whatever subcaucus they chose to join.

Now get home and give some of it to mom for rent. God knows they ran up some serious charges on her card for the trip.

I am open to being pleasantly surprised, however.

His campaign made little effort to train or screen delegates.

about the future of America, and talking about how much money they made by selling the credentials."

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At the very least these people involved put their own financial well being before the civic duty they were suppose to perform.

It's just as deplorable as when a politician sells out to special interests for money. Both acts should be made illegal through strict rules.

Was a real sad event....



Seriously?

Was used fir the purpose to get the Democratic nominee off to a good start so they could actually win the White House and put our party in elections. No winning wasn't the purpose.

Removed the taint of the Corruption of Establishment from themselves? Or something. Oligarchy. Corporatist. Status quo. FDR. DNC. DWS. *bursts into tears*

or at least to some charity.

And don't think there aren't people committed to doing it.

There's a good reason we keep them marginalized.

The voters at home. This is vile.

elected delegates. Why weren't they?

I would cherish the opportunity to be at any Dem convention, even when "my" candidate did not prevail. And these spoiled little shit stains - they were so void of awareness, so bereft of character that they sold their privilege to . . . . who? Putin's stand-ins? Shameful.

could have put a huge arena full of people in great danger. Sick.

The only difference in our convention and a football game is people who purchase tickets scalped to them really want to see the football game.

Call it opportunism, call it criminal activity, call it fraud . . . just call it something else. Everyone gets their panties in a knot over a team called "Redskins," but this is equally as offensive.

With the scalper taking a portion or "cut" of the profits.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=scalper

scalper (n.) Look up scalper at Dictionary.com
1650s as a type of surgical instrument; 1760 as "one who removes scalps," agent noun from scalp (v.).

Meaning "person who re-sells tickets at unauthorized prices for a profit," 1869, American English; earliest reference is to theater tickets, but often used late 19c. of brokers who sold unused portions of railway tickets. [Railways charged less per mile for longer-distance tickets; therefore someone travelling from New York to Chicago could buy a ticket all the way to San Francisco, get out at Chicago and sell it to a scalper, and come away with more money than if he had simply bought a ticket to Chicago; the Chicago scalper would hold the ticket till he found someone looking for a ticket to San Francisco, then sell it to him at a slight advance, but for less than the official price.] Perhaps from scalp (v.); scalper was a generic term for "con man, cheater" in late 19c. Or perhaps the connecting sense is the bounty offered for scalps of certain destructive animals (attested in New England from 1703) and sometimes Indians (i.e., having only part of something, but still getting paid). Some, though, see a connection rather to scalpel, the surgical instrument.

scalp (tickets)

Why is the resale of tickets called scalping?

It was the practice of some Native American tribes to scalp their defeated foes (that is, to remove the skin from the tops of their heads). These scalps were originally collected as trophies and served as a formidable attestation to a combatant's prowess in battle. Eventually, scalping became financially motivated as well, with individuals receiving payment for each scalp procured.

As settlement on the American frontier continued, rail travel quickly grew in popularity. Men saw an opportunity to make quick cash by purchasing unused portions of railroad tickets to resell for profit. These traders in tickets came to be compared with collectors of scalps, and soon the term scalper was extended to include these ticket tradesmen as well.

Scalpers eventually expanded their domain of resale beyond railroad tickets. Today, we encounter offers to buy scalped tickets for just about every event imaginable.

Not directly, at least. They paid filing fees to run and then whatever costs to go to the convention. As someone who would have liked to buy a ticket to the convention (though I would not have spent anywhere near $5000), I say there's nothing wrong with the delegates selling their credentials after the voting was over if they didn't want to attend the rest of the convention. The convention was better off without the booers anyway.

that people had qualified for -- as opposed to tickets that anyone should be able to use, or transfer.

But it is the term used in the article.

It shouldn't have been possible to do this.

You could be.

We have to improve screening and protection not just at our conventions but on our email servers as well.

I was also offered extra tags from the credentialing office.

Are party needs to do a better job securing our selfs including on our computer systems

...to describe my feelings.

That is all I have to say about this. Feh!