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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:45 AM Aug 2016

Denouncing anti-science: How Jill Stein lost my vote for good - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/

August 1, 2016 by Dan Arel

Anyone who reads this blog knows I have supported Jill Stein’s candidacy for president for a while now. She was my original choice until Bernie Sanders came along, and I moved back to Stein when Sanders didn’t clinch the nomination.

I even tried very hard to defend not only Stein’s but the Green Party’s anti-science beliefs. I can deal with some candidacy issues because not everyone is perfect, but there is a limit to how much a science advocate can take. That limit for me is downright lying about science, and over pandering to fear mongers.

I can no longer do that. I must speak out and I must abandon my endorsement of Stein and leave the Green Party.

Vaccines

First, she seemed wishy-washy on vaccines. She says they work, but then says they contain “toxins” and makes them sound as if they need more testing. I defended her original comments, but I denounced her latest. Since I already wrote about that at length, I won’t do so again here, but you can read my thoughts about her and vaccines here.

Now, she has posted a tweet that says “there is no evidence vaccines cause autism,” deleted it, and reposted it saying she doesn’t “know” of any evidence.

Her comments about vaccines are irresponsible and reprehensible. She should be ashamed.

- See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2016/08/denouncing-anti-science-how-jill-stein-lost-my-vote-for-good/#sthash.bboCky1R.fGYe7aKy.dpuf
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Denouncing anti-science: How Jill Stein lost my vote for good - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/ (Original Post) MrScorpio Aug 2016 OP
Evidence that having madaboutharry Aug 2016 #1
Vaccines, GMOs, and wi-fi, oh my! ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #2
She is a useful idiot to the right wing, siphoning off 5% of Dem voters. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #3
Yes. Delphinus Aug 2016 #10
who? Skittles Aug 2016 #4
Why Are People Worried About Stein? billhicks76 Aug 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #6
My Mother Isn't White billhicks76 Aug 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #9
I Don't Think Anyone Will Fix It billhicks76 Aug 2016 #11
I love the authors evolution on Stein! nt LostOne4Ever Aug 2016 #8

SunSeeker

(51,720 posts)
3. She is a useful idiot to the right wing, siphoning off 5% of Dem voters.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:08 AM
Aug 2016

A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
5. Why Are People Worried About Stein?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:55 AM
Aug 2016

my mother is a conservative. She thinks trump is a madman lunatic racist. But she can't vote for Hillary because she doesn't trust her or Bill. She voted for Bill. She also a victim of a cheating husband. She told me she's voting for Stein. I was stunned. It just showed me the normal conventions have been thrown out the door. Assume nothing. People have had it. But Jill and Gary will split the disenchantment vote so I see talking about Stein as a waste of time.

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billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
7. My Mother Isn't White
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:06 AM
Aug 2016

Check the pretentious condescension. If you don't think people have had it with politics and undelivered promises then you don't pay attention. My mother isn't voting for Trump so I don't get your comment. Don't shoot the messenger. My point is don't worry the sky isn't falling and it's a two way race. But also that there has been a political paradigm shift of unpredictability based on old parameters. Be aware and adjust when need be. As far as how great things are I can tell you this. I'm in desperate need of an MRI. My insurance won't cover it I explained how awful that is to my nurse. She said she went bankrupt because her insurance wouldn't cover her MRIs either. Most people don't have politics as their hobby. This majority is hurting still and needs assistance.

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billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
11. I Don't Think Anyone Will Fix It
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016

That's the point. Not sure what your issue is. Maybe you support Stein. My point is if we want to win we better start identifying the actual problems and not underestimate the enemy We don't need any quacks or shallow analysis in how to defeat Trump. Being afraid of a straw man like Stein is wasting time. She is no threat. Turning off voters and turnout is the biggest threat. This is serious business.

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