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Koinos

(2,792 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:52 AM Aug 2016

"How Paul Manafort Wielded Power in Ukraine Before Advising Donald Trump"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/us/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?ref=politics&_r=2

This link (with excerpts and additional information) was originally posted by StrictlyRockers in "Latest Breaking News," but it was subsequently locked for having been posted in the wrong forum. The New York Times article details an ongoing involvement of Paul Manafort in the turmoil in the Ukraine. The story of Manafort's association with Putin and Yanukovych resembles a James Bond thriller. It boggles my mind that Republicans attempted to derail Hillary's campaign with bogus Benghazi investigations, while they ignore Manafort's association with Putin and Yanukovych and the Ukranian conflict. I find it hard to believe that any candidate for the presidency of the United States could survive a revelation of this magnitude. It appears that Manafort has tried to put lipstick on an authoritarian pig more than once.

Many thanks to StrictlyRockers for fetching this article. The locked thread (with excerpts from the article, as well as additional information) can be found here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141539138.
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"How Paul Manafort Wielded Power in Ukraine Before Advising Donald Trump" (Original Post) Koinos Aug 2016 OP
NONE of this is getting adequate coverage in MSM. annabanana Aug 2016 #1
Trump, Manafort, Putin, and Yanukovych ... with a little Russian mob thrown in. Koinos Aug 2016 #3
#ComradeManafort has some explaining to do RapSoDee Aug 2016 #2
More Background on Paul Manafort from Slate (April, 2016) Koinos Aug 2016 #4
that is creepy as hell annabanana Aug 2016 #5
Very creepy. The Manafort link between Trump and Putin is scaring the shit out of me. Koinos Aug 2016 #7
THIS SHOULD CREEP OUT EVERYBODY TOO....see below! cynzke Aug 2016 #11
Donald Trump’s Campaign Manager Worked for Warlords, Arms-Dealers and Dictator SecularMotion Aug 2016 #6
Manafort is dangerous. Koinos Aug 2016 #9
KICK!!! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #8
MANAFORT HAS COMPANY! cynzke Aug 2016 #10
The problem of Russian ties in Trump's campaign goes wide and deep. Koinos Aug 2016 #12
Sounds like Doonesbury's Uncle Duke working for Greater Berzerkistan Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #13
This should be brought up whenever Manafort is on TV oberliner Aug 2016 #14
agree 100% annabanana Aug 2016 #15
More kicks for the late night crowd! annabanana Aug 2016 #16
Imma kick this sucker AGAIN.. because everyone needs to let it sink in! annabanana Aug 2016 #17
big ugly WEEKEND kick! annabanana Aug 2016 #18
That is way past ugly! But thanks for keeping this thread alive. Koinos Aug 2016 #19
Everyone should ask Manafort about his connection to Ukraine/Russia oberliner Aug 2016 #20

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
1. NONE of this is getting adequate coverage in MSM.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:22 AM
Aug 2016

That guy's face should be as familiar to every American as his feckless boss's

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
3. Trump, Manafort, Putin, and Yanukovych ... with a little Russian mob thrown in.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:04 AM
Aug 2016

From the article:

Until he joined Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign this year, Mr. Manafort’s work in Ukraine had been his most significant political campaign in recent years. He began his career in Republican politics in the 1970s and extended it overseas to advising authoritarian leaders, including Mobutu Sese Seko in Zaire, Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines and Mr. Yanukovych.


Manafort's role in Trump's campaign sounds like an attempt to undermine President Obama's policy with regard to the Ukraine, as well as to prevent Hillary Clinton from carrying on this same policy as president. Putin and Yanukovych do not want Hillary to win, and I suspect we will see more Russian involvement in this election. Manafort may or may not be an intermediary in this effort. It will be interesting to see what more the New York Times will turn up in their investigative reporting. They know they are definitely onto something big here.

RapSoDee

(421 posts)
2. #ComradeManafort has some explaining to do
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:49 AM
Aug 2016

Exactly how are he and his Republican cronies tied up with Russia?

Who owes who? How much?

Who is the ENFORCER in the deals you have made with Russia?

Show us your tax returns. Show us #ComradeTrump's tax returns. Now.

etc.?

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
4. More Background on Paul Manafort from Slate (April, 2016)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:15 AM
Aug 2016

"The Quiet American: Paul Manafort made a career out of stealthily reinventing the world’s nastiest tyrants as noble defenders of freedom. Getting Donald Trump elected will be a cinch. By Franklin Foer"

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_career_of_reinventing_tyrants.html

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
7. Very creepy. The Manafort link between Trump and Putin is scaring the shit out of me.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

Republicans may have nominated a "Siberian candidate" whose purpose is to disturb international relations not only between the United States and Russia, but also between the United States and its allies. Trump may be unwitting about what is going on, but his nastiness toward anyone and everyone he doesn't like may be a diversion from a deeper and more sinister game plan devised by entities that have no business in our political election.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
11. THIS SHOULD CREEP OUT EVERYBODY TOO....see below!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:20 AM
Aug 2016

Here is an excellent article EXPOSING all the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is TOO SERIOUS to overlook/IGNORE!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/donald-trump-paul-manafort-ukraine-russia-putin-tie

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
6. Donald Trump’s Campaign Manager Worked for Warlords, Arms-Dealers and Dictator
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:23 AM
Aug 2016
Even the most brutal dictators and the bloodiest warlords could benefit from having a friendly public-relations operative in Washington. Access to high-ranking officials goes a long way in the nation’s capital. There’s always somebody willing to take on the vilest of clients — and one of those somebodies is Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s new campaign manager.

Manafort has worked on behalf of an Angolan warlord, a Lebanese arms-dealer, the Pakistani spy agency that went on to create the Taliban, the Putin-aligned president of Ukraine and a who’s-who of 1980s dictators. He helped enrich clients who left trails of death and destruction in their wakes.

To be clear, Manafort also has extensive experience working as a political operative in the United States as far back as 1976. He worked for the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Robert Dole, and George W. Bush. His record suggests he’s pretty good at his job.

Manafort got his start delegate-wrangling for Gerald Ford in the 1976 Republican convention, where he demonstrated precocious political talents. Tutored by Bush-consigliere James Baker, he went on to manage Reagan’s campaigns in 1980 and 1984.

https://warisboring.com/donald-trumps-campaign-manager-worked-for-warlords-arms-dealers-and-dictators-261626a143d8#.5wak7yptw


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016164550

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
9. Manafort is dangerous.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:53 AM
Aug 2016

His job is to make dictators look respectable. And he is Trump's campaign manager, no less. He could be chief of staff or secretary of state in a Trump administration. Think of the international mess he could cause in that role, as he directs Trump to abandon NATO and stand by while Russia moves against the Ukraine as a first step in reconstructing the "Soviet Union." The balance of world power would shift catastrophically with a Trump presidency. Trump's sole talent is his ability to profit personally from breaking things. As president, he could break NATO and just about everything else.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
10. MANAFORT HAS COMPANY!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:07 AM
Aug 2016

There are about five more staffers who have ties to Russia. Rick Gates for one. Turns out that John McCain's campaign manager in 2008, Rick Davis, was a business partner with Paul Manafort. Rick Davis recently gave testimony to Cayman Island officials regarding a business deal Manafort and his partner arranged with a Russian oligarch and Putin Pal. The business venture lost $26 mil and the oligarch wants to know where the money went...thinks Manafort stashed it away somewhere, allowing the business deal to collapse. Check the link that covers this. Also note how much business is going on behind the scene between Russian and US business investors . How they PRESSURE our government officials AND even pressure the FBI to allow shady Russian business investor into the country . Much more going on than the public realizes. An eye opener .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-campaign-chief-ducks-questions-about-214020365.html


Koinos

(2,792 posts)
12. The problem of Russian ties in Trump's campaign goes wide and deep.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

Your excellent post deserves a thread of its own.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
13. Sounds like Doonesbury's Uncle Duke working for Greater Berzerkistan
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

I wish Trudeau could have kept the daily strip going thru this election cycle.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. This should be brought up whenever Manafort is on TV
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:11 PM
Aug 2016

All questions directed to Manafort should be about Russia/Ukraine.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
19. That is way past ugly! But thanks for keeping this thread alive.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:14 PM
Aug 2016

I think that Trump's unwitting cooperation with Russia's expansionist agenda is the greatest danger we face.

There are many reasons to dump Trump, but his relation to Putin is HUGE.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. Everyone should ask Manafort about his connection to Ukraine/Russia
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:19 PM
Aug 2016

Every single time he is on television.

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