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Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:09 AM Aug 2016

Not that I dare get my hopes up, but wondering what would happen....

if Trump packed up his toys and went home before the election. Or more probably, have a complete and total mental breakdown and have to be institutionalized.

Actually, I'm not sure I want it to happen. I'm becoming more and more convinced he's not only going to lose, but lose by an embarrassingly wide margin.

But in all seriousness, what does happen if a party's nominee drops out between accepting the nomination and Election Day? Has it ever happened before? I can't think of an instance. But although a history buff, I have not spent time on the details of all U.S. presidential races so I'm totally ignorant on this. Anyone know?




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Not that I dare get my hopes up, but wondering what would happen.... (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 OP
From what I found: Amimnoch Aug 2016 #1
Appreciate it, thanks! Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #5
Two words: President Pence. Hortensis Aug 2016 #10
You really think Pence could beat Hillary? MoonRiver Aug 2016 #14
No. But I can't control my nightmares. Happily, Hortensis Aug 2016 #15
I agree that there is a POTENTIAL nightmare, but Rump's base is not enough to win him the election. MoonRiver Aug 2016 #16
Yes for Hillary. And his base is enough to LOSE Hortensis Aug 2016 #17
I think so too! MoonRiver Aug 2016 #18
There was a nice answer to that question in a thread yesterday: Chemisse Aug 2016 #2
Thank you! Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #4
K&R for the question and first two replies. Very informative. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #3
I even did a search and didn't spot the thread from yesterday. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #6
Yep. I seem to have missed it as well. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #21
Pretty sure won't happen. But what do I know. Someone else posted Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2016 #7
The GOP would rally around whatever loon they pick to replace him. progressoid Aug 2016 #8
^this^ awake Aug 2016 #9
That's what has me concerned as well. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #11
It will be a concern even if Trump stays in the race (and I think he will) progressoid Aug 2016 #12
I can't imagine that Trump will drop out VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #13
People have been saying this LoverOfLiberty Aug 2016 #19
I don't think he will drop out, and I'm not speculating about it. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #20
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
1. From what I found:
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:13 AM
Aug 2016
The Party Chair calls a meeting of the National Committee, and the Committee members at the meeting vote to fill the vacancy on the ticket. A candidate must receive a majority of the votes to win the party's nod.


http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/20431

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
14. You really think Pence could beat Hillary?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:06 AM
Aug 2016

And that would be after the entire Repuke Party exploded? Don't think so.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. No. But I can't control my nightmares. Happily,
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:20 AM
Aug 2016

someone on TV just pointed out that every Trump rally is attended by people who see the race in hostile "us versus them" terms. Everyone who seems to criticize Trump, as a Gold Star Mother did yesterday, is their enemy. They break into several chants of "lock her up, lock her up, ..." at every rally.

So, regardless of how many conservatives are coming to realize Trump is mentally disordered, it seems likely that his base would react very badly to Trump's withdrawal, regardless of excuse. Three months wouldn't be enough time to turn them...presumably.

But I may still wake up screaming at a nightmare confluence of Trump withdrawing, Pence moving into his place, a well-respected Republican senator or governor becoming the VP candidate, a major terrorist attack in America moving the entire nation into protective mode (engineered by a leader with a grudge against Hillary perhaps...), and the Koch alliance of several hundred oligarchs deciding they can elect themselves a very satisfactory president.

We're actually in the middle of a real nightmare, and I won't feel safe until it's over.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
16. I agree that there is a POTENTIAL nightmare, but Rump's base is not enough to win him the election.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:33 AM
Aug 2016

I really do believe that Hillary's got this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Yes for Hillary. And his base is enough to LOSE
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:34 AM
Aug 2016

the election for any replacement they conceivably tried to plug in.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
6. I even did a search and didn't spot the thread from yesterday.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:16 AM
Aug 2016

I feel a little embarrassed I didn't know the answer to my question, but gratified I wasn't the only one.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
7. Pretty sure won't happen. But what do I know. Someone else posted
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:17 AM
Aug 2016

something about a 150 person panel in which any of them can put up a name. Whichever name gets 76 votes first goes on to the general. I haven't confirmed this. So there might still be a chance for them to nominate Reagan's maggot infested corpse. Would also have to confirm if the replacement has to be among the living. So I guess Cheney also's got a shot.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
8. The GOP would rally around whatever loon they pick to replace him.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:24 AM
Aug 2016

Frankly, I think it would be a worse scenario for us. If they had an actual Republican (Rubio, maybe even Cruz) they would jump at the chance.
Hillary's margin over Trump isn't that great. If Repubs were united, Hillary stands a chance of losing.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
12. It will be a concern even if Trump stays in the race (and I think he will)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:44 AM
Aug 2016

When he loses in November, he's done. There will be no place for him in the party system. Then the GOP will need a new leader.

Cruz?

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
13. I can't imagine that Trump will drop out
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:03 AM
Aug 2016

First of all, I don't think he believes, or will ever believe, that he's going to lose. As we are seeing now, his ego is such that if he loses he will blame the system and call the election rigged. Unlike Romney, who also thought he had the election in the bag and was able to draft a credible concession speech while the results were coming in, don't expect Trump to go quietly into that good night. I will now violate Godwin's Law by pointing out that when Hitler realized that Germany was finished he blamed the German people for not being strong enough, not his own strategic failures. I expect will blame everyone but himself for the loss because, in his mind, he can only ever be successful. It will not be pretty.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
19. People have been saying this
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Aug 2016

since March or earlier.

Trump isn't dropping out and there is no reason to keep speculating about it.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
20. I don't think he will drop out, and I'm not speculating about it.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:16 PM
Aug 2016

But given his instability, I think it's a fair process question to ask. I didn't know the process and was curious how it worked, and if it had ever happened before.

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