2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo I値l ask the question outright.
Exactly how stupid do you have to be to believe that Hillary Clinton actually said that she was going to raise taxes on the middle class?
Precisely how delusional do you have to be to think that Hillary completely contrary to everything she has said from the beginning of her campaign until now suddenly decided to do a complete about-face and announce in front of a cheering crowd that her real plan was to raise taxes on the millions of middle-class voters who are supporting her?
How off-kilter does your comprehension have to be to embrace the notion that Hillary, in the midst of talking about Trump wanting to cut taxes for the super-rich, surreptitiously slipped in her own plan to raise taxes on the working class?
I suppose there are still people out there who think Creedence Clearwater had a hit with a song about there being a bathroom on the right, and that Madonna sang about the fact that last night, she dreamt of some bagels.
But seriously, folks exactly how dumber than dumb can the already dumber-than-dumb get?
What kind of person insists that Hillarys words are the exact opposite of what she said in an attempt to discredit her, and bring attention to themselves?
Well, I believe R.E.M. answered that question when they sang, Let's pee in the corner, Let's pee in the spotlight.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)One line into your post and I thought of CCR.
Except when I was a kid I thought it was a baboon on the right.
calimary
(81,322 posts)the Dockalow Bay.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)...
underpants
(182,829 posts)I am notoriously lyrically deaf amongst my friends
I thought Chimnawumba were saying:
I get up down
But I get up again
Cause it happens in the lead guitar
Grateful Dead "Sugar Magnolia" line is "pays my tickets when I speed" for at least 10 years I thought Jerry was saying "feeds my chickens when I sleep". Living near Hampton Va I probably heard that song hundreds of times before I got it.
One of the reasons I am such an REM fan is because I could pretty much make up my own lyrics. What did he say? Who cares, it'll change next time.
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)"i'm the sun and you can read
i'm the sun and you'll not tell
we combinin' in the scythe
we could gather throw a fit
Up to buy Arkady bars that kitchen times but not me in
sit and try for the big heat no wastin' time sittin' still"
I seriously was convinced Stipe was purposefully creating word salad on like 1/2 of the songs on their 1st three albums, and that at least some % of the lyrics were just made up words, so it didn't matter I didn't know the actual words because there was no chance they made sense anyway.
That said, Rockville was one of my favorite early REM tracks ... which was a really trippy song to me at the time ... I've been into them since shortly after Murmur came out, still have the vinyl, and that song was like ... wait ... WHAT SORCERY IS THIS? I understand EVERY WORD!?! And they are a GREAT set of lyrics, IMHO.
That was the 2nd song I taught myself to sing and play on the guitar, sitting in my college dorm room circa 1987 ... 2nd after 'Here Comes a Regular' ... which is a LOT easier, basically 'Knockin' on Heaven's Door', knocked down a 1/2 step.
Springslips
(533 posts)Wanted to shoot the people with no shoes on their feet. I thought it was a bit harsh.
underpants
(182,829 posts)I listened to little other than them for several years. You are right about the word salad but that was what I liked about it.
Several conversations like this with people as REM got more and more popular
What's this song about?
Me: Don't know. Whatever you want it to be.
What did he say there?
Me: What did you hear? Then it's that.
I don't understand this song
Me: it's poetry
I was in the Army from 90-93 in Germany. One of the strange elements was meeting guys who had no idea about alternative music. "Nevermind" has just come out and by mid90 it had saved music. When a new recruit would show up they'd be asked what was going on back in the States. "What's on MTv?" "That shit he listens to" was one classic response. Mind you I had to explain to some of these guys that "Spinal Tap" wasn't real. Several of these guys now regularly post pro-Trump anti-Hillary stuff on Facebook.
When "Out of Time" came out it felt like a victory lap for me as a longtime fan. Hearing "Losing My Religion" played in a GI frequented German night club was like my own personal inside joke. I read an interview in which Buck recalled a conversation with Mills while making the album. They knew the ways things worked and that their next release would go #1. Buck,"If we are going to have a #1 song why not put a mandolin on it?" Mills laughed and said, "Yeah, why the hell not?"
That sums up REM to me. Whatever you want it to be and why the hell not?
underpants
(182,829 posts)Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)Bennie and the Jets has electric boobs, her mom has two
agingdem
(7,850 posts)Michael Jackson...dibby dooby dat way...Human Nature
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)"All the boys think she's a spy, she's got better legs and thighs"
Pyrzqxgl
(1,356 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I really thought Jimi Hendrix said, "excuse me while I kiss this guy."
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)Nobody kissed the sky, even in the 60's.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)On the same format, just before Hendrix enunciates the first "Purple haze..." lyric, you can hear him clear his throat.
These things matter.
phylny
(8,380 posts)I was shocked, stunned, and disgusted when I thought Gwen Stefani was singing, "I ain't no Harlem Black girl."
My children howled. Still do.
(For those oldies like me, she was actually singing, "I ain't no hollaback girl."
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)we used to sing a hymn in church and I'm not sure which one it was but I thought it had the word penguin in it.
calimary
(81,322 posts)he thought they were singing about the Donderly Lie!
KMOD
(7,906 posts)my kids were exposed to a lot of their music at a young age.
I still laugh when I remember hearing my oldest daughter singing along with The Chain.
dandy love, dandelions.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)The audio fidelity with AM isn't up there. I misheard lots of songs when younger. After all I did grow up in the Smashey and Nicey era of radio DJs.
amb123
(1,581 posts)- Jimi Hendrix
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)the people at a Trump rally say; the idiocy is mind boggling.
procon
(15,805 posts)There is no lie that will not be believed. There is no fake news that is not true. There is no conspiracy theory that did not really happen. It doesn't matter, there is nothing too outrageous that will not be accepted without question.
Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)There's a bar room on the rye.
Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)"There's a bad moon on the rise."
Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Yes I used the voice to text to make this post.
central scrutinizer
(11,652 posts)While I kiss this guy
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Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)That's pretty funny though.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)should also have said and the dumb and naive.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Because with "too much education," one tends to vote liberal!
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)cry baby
(6,682 posts)I'm furious that some will believe she said she's going to raise taxes on the middle class and the whole crowd went crazy at that notion. Eye Roll
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)...revved up like a douche?
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)japple
(9,833 posts)And in Marvin Gaye's Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler), I thought he was saying, "Make me wanna holler, throw up on my hands."
calimary
(81,322 posts)I never could figure out why they were singing about a douche.
DAMMIT Nance, look what you started!
JHB
(37,161 posts)KMOD
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Lazy Daisy
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(20,219 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)It was from the horse with no mane!
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... not bad at all!
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Big O Jed had a lighthouse
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)Nance - Best OP I've seen in weeks. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I'm laughing so hard I can't even THINK of something to add to this! The responses are GREAT!
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)I ate a one-ton tomato.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)brett_jv
(1,245 posts)It's "Guantanamera, Guajira Guantanamera"
calimary
(81,322 posts)STOP IT!!!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)To one degree or another, we all believe what we want to believe. We all see things through the prism of our experiences and biases.
These folks want to believe it, so they do.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)and "let it all hang out" while I "shake my tambourine."
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...my Tony Danza.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Sorry, couldn't resist. I love mondegreens!
I hear you. The willful ignorance is mindboggling.
calimary
(81,322 posts)I'm crying!
mcar
(42,334 posts)mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)might as well face it, you're a dick with a glove
(might as well face it, you're addicted to love)
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Excuse me while I kiss this guy.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)This has to be the all-time BEST THREAD EVER!!!!
Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)Maybe better if in the future she says" We are not going to raise taxes on the middle class", rather than using "aren't". Or even "We will not raise taxes on the middle class".
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)he kept us safe!
If that isn't the most Orwellian thing in the history of ever!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Silent3
(15,234 posts)A few wingnuts might be stupid enough to actually believe these things were said and intended to be said that way, but most like to pretend it's some kind of Freudian slip, that they caught the "real" desires and intentions of the evil liberals sneaking through. They love having their imaginary "Ah, hah! Gotcha!" moment.
Either that, or they think the Democratic candidates somehow deserves to be interpreted badly no matter what they really said or intended to say or even actually believe, so they'll gleefully push a deliberate misinterpretation on that basis.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)for their guns (I know, he still has some time to do it )
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)went right over my head, though.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... "I've been searching for a hard up goat "
(Hey, I'm getting old!)
calimary
(81,322 posts)I am on the floor.
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)<iframe width="420" height="315" src="
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(14,577 posts)It's not what she said. The problem is that the people who believe this lie don't EVER come here, watch anything other than Fox 'news,' or listen to anything rather than hate-talk radio. So they are gonna be true believers. What did Obama say? 'Haters gonna hate.'
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... to swallow a story like this. But I actually first saw it on that "progressier-then-thou" site, where alleged progressives are insisting she said it and she meant it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Look, that tertiary syphilis support group has got some freakin issues.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)1) DAMN stupid 2) deliberately obtuse, which is stupid on purpose.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)for Reverend Blue Jeans (the "cool" youth pastor).
treestar
(82,383 posts)This election is getting ridiculous.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Lock the cash bar. Lock the cash bar.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Stupid enough to support Donald Trump for PROTUS. Yes. I agree. It is pretty damn scary.
Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)What they were doing in my coffee I have no idea.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)What kind of person insists that Hillarys words are the exact opposite of what she said in an attempt to discredit her, and bring attention to themselves?
OK, I'll answer. A moron or tRump supporter, but I repeat myself.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)so anything goes..................
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)You take a piece of meat with you
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... who made this thread so much fun!!!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Because it fits the mythology, it was probably effective on any wayward sheep who were thinking of straying.
Too much money is at stake for the ratfuckers not to try shit like this 24/7, as they have for decades. Enough of it sticks for long enough that they'll keep doing it.