2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCan Trumpism Be Defeated Along with Trump? (excerpt from Peggy Noonan column)
Peggy Noonan: From what Ive seen there has been zero reflection on the part of Republican leaders on how much the bases views differ from theirs and what to do about it. The GOP is not at all refiguring its stands. The only signs of life I see are among young staffers on Capitol Hill, who understand their bosses stands have been rebuked and are quietly debating among themselves what policy paths will win the future.Beyond that, anti-Trump Republicans treat his voters like immoral enablers of a malignant boob. Should Mr. Trump lose decisively in November theyll lord it over everyone, say I told you so, and accept what they imagine will be forelock-tugging apologies. Then they will get to work burying not only Mr. Trump but his issues.
Thats where the future of the GOP will be fought, and found: on whether Trumpism can be defeated along with Mr. Trump.
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https://politicalwire.com/2016/08/05/can-trumpism-be-defeated-along-with-trump/
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)The Republicans did a review of what went wrong when Rmoney lost to Obama. One of the conclusions was that they needed to diversify by a minority outreach to broaden their base. They ignored all of the recommendations of this fact finding group and went full steam ahead in the opposite direction.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... more people are educated on what's causing them problems. They've been deflected by right-wing propaganda for YEARS:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281823571_Corporate_Parsitology_101
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)1. A whole big bunch of people are going to seriously vote for Trump.
2. They're not going to evaporate after election day.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)resulted in nothing more than doubling down on their white dominance base. Or as Krauthammer considered, "reaching out" to Hispanics by kicking their surrogates the illegals somewhat less would be enough to pacify them, while as for black conservatives, even reaching out was unnecessary, i.e., "America doesn't need a second Democratic Party." In other words, nothing.
As for changing its cannibalistic economic policies even a little -- that was never on the table.
A couple of people on TV last night agreed that if Trump won (won't happen of course) it would mean the end of today's Republican party and conservatism as it has been since Reagan. If he loses, it's likely to just stumble on longer.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)The real Repugs, the base we hear so much about, care about one thing: their money and how to keep it. So they talk about "fiscal conservatism"--low taxes on the rich and little or no safety net--as an aside to the issues that really matter to a lot of Repug voters--immigration, abortion, guns. Why? Because the "fiscal conservative" view is unpopular with a huge majority of the country! The only way to get enough votes is to push social issues. Enter Trump, with huuuuge appeal to the racists and anti-immigrant folks. They know they need a candidate *like* Trump to win, they just didn't realize what they were getting.
My prediction is they will blame this loss on, again, not running a "true conservative". Someday they will actually run one and lose even worse.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Peggy got that part right
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)I think it is appropriate that Donald Trump's particularly odious brand of demagoguery be labeled with a distinctive noun, similar to "McCarthyism."
However, I hope the term Trumpism fades away after this election. We still remember and use the term McCarthyism because Joe McCarthy wielded power in our government for a number of years and badly hurt many good people. It would be best for everyone if Donald Trump's quest for power became an impotent object of ridicule rather than a hard learned lesson in the wake of destruction inflicted.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)versions were less gauche, but just as profoundly anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic.
I wish you would turn your post into an OP abs elaborate on its themes.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)"I am the state" definitely pertains to Trump's perception of himself, and to all dictators real and would-be.
Unfortunately I don't have the inclination or time right now to elaborate on the theme of my post, but feel free to explore the related ideas and create your own OP on Trumpism.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)Republicans join us in flushing them out of their party.. sometimes you just have to join hands to save someone (in this case the country)..and work together.. they will need to rebuild.