2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe sinking fantasy that Trump would defend the Constitution - By George Will
By George F. Will Opinion writer August 5 at 7:09 PM
Like shipwrecked mariners clinging to a floating mast, many Republicans rationalize supporting Donald Trump because of the court. This two-word incantation means: Because we care so much for the Constitution, it is supremely important to entrust to Trump the making of Supreme Court nominations. Well.
In a Republican candidates debate, Trump complained that Ted Cruz had criticized Trumps sister, a federal judge. Trump said: Hes been criticizing my sister for signing a certain bill. You know who else signed that bill? Justice Samuel Alito, a very conservative member of the Supreme Court, with my sister, signed that bill. Trump, the supposed savior of the Supreme Court, thinks federal judges sign bills.
The mast-clingers say: Well, sure, he knows nothing about U.S. government, including the Constitution, which he vows to defend all the way to Article XII. He will, however, choose wise advisers and humbly defer to them.
This does not quite seem like him, but the mast-clingers say: Dont worry, he already has compiled a list of admirable potential nominees, and, stickler that he is for consistency and predictability, he will stick to this script written by strangers. This, too, does not quite seem like Trump, but the mast-clingers say: Dont worry, he has said enough to reveal what his instincts are. Indeed he has.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-sinking-fantasy-that-trump-would-defend-the-constitution/2016/08/05/04b42f1e-5a6c-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)It will help the more sane members of the GOP to justify a vote for Clinton.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)We can't convince them. I am anxiously waiting to see if my mother votes for Clinton AND if she tells me she did or is going to. If I ask her or even question her whether she might, she won't. She has to get there on her own. If someone intimates that she may have to vote for a Democrat, she won't. I know she can't stand Trump, but you can't discuss it with her as it just turns to Clinton derangement.
Wednesdays
(17,381 posts)that he actually takes Trump seriously.
NNadir
(33,527 posts)...but just as a broken clock is right two times a day, Will is right that it is absurd to consider that Trump would "protect the constitution" because as Mr. Khan notably pointed out, he's unaware of its contents.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Whatever else we may think of him there is a chance he will be the next President so we have to take him seriously. And that includes seriously exposing his shortcomings.
packman
(16,296 posts)News to me and takes me by surprise.
Seems like she fell far away from the tree and deserves some credit for her decisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)A Republican,[6] Barry was nominated to be a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit by President Bill Clinton[5] on June 17, 1999, to replace H. Lee Sarokin, who had retired in 1996. President Clinton in 1998 had nominated Robert Raymar to the seat, but that nomination was never given a hearing by the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Raymar's nomination expired at the end of that year. Clinton chose not to renominate Raymar to the Third Circuit seat during the next congressional term, and elected instead to nominate Barry.
Barry was unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate on September 13, 1999, and received her commission on September 22, 1999. "I am deeply honored and very grateful for the nomination," Barry told the New Jersey Law Journal in 1999. "I am surprised I was approached on it. I assume that my record is good enough as a district court judge to be reached out to, and I'm glad that politics weren't a priority here."[7]
Barry's reputation on the bench was that of a tough judge with strong command of her courtroom.[5] In 1989, while a district court judge in Essex County, New Jersey, she disapproved a plea bargaining deal that would have freed two county detectives accused of protecting a drug dealer, and forced the case to trial, where the detectives were convicted and received jail terms. She also presided over the conviction of Louis Manna, the Genovese crime family boss accused of plotting to assassinate rival John Gotti.[5]
In January 2006, Barry testified in support of the appointment of fellow Third Circuit Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court.
On June 30, 2011, Barry assumed senior status and was ultimately succeeded by Judge Patty Shwartz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)She's not Orange.
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)He had to do something to outdo his sister who is a federal judge.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)are there too but I get the feeling he would be more tolerant of the nuttiness and certainly the knownothingness if he wasn't also concerned about him being an undercover liberal.
rladdi
(581 posts)rally, He had security throw out several people that were holding up the copies of the Constitution. If he felt so strong about the Constitution, why would he throw them out. And at a rally in Wisc last night he read from a script, backing Ryan, McCain and Sen. Arylotte. Indicating we must keep the Senate and House republicans. OMG are his supporters as mental insane as he is? I don't think he supports those people, but is being told to read the script. How many million is this senile man fooling?
treestar
(82,383 posts)which they said for Reagan, it's like why not run one of the advisors, since they are the ones that know what they are doing? Why do they not come up with someone who can do the job themselves.
Of course a POTUS has people to help him or her find out and analyze information. No one person could do it. One thing that would be great about being President would be there is always someone to find out whatever you need.
Donnie shows no signs of listening to anybody thus far.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)(1) It is the party's registered voters who pick the candidate they want for president. Trump was picked by the voters, not the RNC, who I'm sure would have much rather a more qualified candidate. Which leads us right into...
(2) As Hillary herself said, she's good at the "service," and not so good at the "public." An advisor who is hugely qualified might be hired as an advisor even if he's not all that likable.... But POTUS? Nope. The man/woman who would be president has to be able to get crowds cheering his/her name, wearing his/her face on a teeshirt, wanting to shake his/her hand. Putting it another way, Cheney would not have won POTUS like G.W. Bush did.
This would be why a political party wouldn't run the advisors. But we're talking mostly about voters who want Trump in the White House. They think the advisors can keep things afloat while he learns the job on the job. And they're okay with this because they think he'll bring in a fresh perspective. Like in the movies: outsider with crazy ideas takes a traditional job in a stubborn town (for example: See "Legally Blonde 2" . He makes mistakes, but advisors help him learn the ropes. Using out-of-the-box thinking, he has surprising successes, which finally convert the stubborn locals into doing things differently. Movie ends with everyone on board with our outsider, and the world being a more efficient, better and happier place.
This scenario can happen--though almost never like in the movies But a young Steve Jobs shaking up the computer industry by taking some maverick chances is a bit different from Trump shaking up the executive branch. The worst young Jobs could do was hurt company finances and get fired. But Trump could destroy our whole economy or start WWIII. If he wants to experiment with government, let him start locally. And small. Not nationally/globally.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Sic 'em, George!
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Wonder if she will secretly vote for Hillary. She has to know that her brother is insane! Wonder what she thought about him attacking the judge?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)in opposition to a Republican candidate. Refreshing, but strange.
wcast
(595 posts)conservatives hate Kelo?! Citizens United is about free speech?! Will and his cronies created this mess and now want to pretend it is an intellectual disagreement. As another poster stated,Will would be happy if Trump backed his issues.