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lapucelle

(18,277 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:35 AM Aug 2016

As if things aren't already stupendously bad enough for Donald Trump

now his pants are on fire. Trump and his surrogates are referencing a doctored tape to allege that Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class. The tape is being used in a Trump ad attacking Hillary.

Luckily, some reporters who were present, a transcript of the prepared remarks, and an analysis by a linguistics professor who specializes in phonology (!) confirm what Clinton actually said: "We aren't going to raise taxes on the middle class."

Now maybe the press will abandon their tortured exegesis concerning Hillary's remarks about her emails (quibble much, Glenn Kessler?) and focus their spotlight on the lying Mr. Trump.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/05/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrongly-says-hillary-clinton-wants-ra/

http://www.thesignalwire.com/2014/05/how-many-pinocchios-should-we-give-fact.html

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Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
1. Snopes says it wasn't doctored.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:38 AM
Aug 2016
Given the context of her statement and the audience's positive reaction to it, it appears that Clinton actually said "we aren't going to raise taxes on the middle class," but either she didn't fully enunciate the ending of the word "aren't" or the word didn't come through clearly on the audio recording (or both). Worst case, she simply misspoke and said "are" when she meant "aren't," because she has not announced any changes to her tax platform or said on any other occasion that she plans to raise taxes on the middle class and not the wealthy.




http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/04/hillary-clinton-raise-taxes/

lapucelle

(18,277 posts)
4. I listened to both tapes and I hear the n on the event tape, but I don't hear it in the Trump ad.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 12:01 PM
Aug 2016

The "n" sound has been edited out of the Trump ad.

In addition to Clinton's policy position on her website and the crowd's reaction,we also have the pre-released transcript of her remarks, and the linguistics expert's analysis.

Sound has been manipulated to Clinton's disadvantage before. Those of us who watched the convention on CSPAN didn't hear the protests as loudly and clearly as those watching coverage on the MSM. Seems that they were mixing recordings of the protesting sections into the master feed of the speakers provided by the DNC in order to enhance and amplify the protests.

Glad to hear that Snopes agrees with Politifact's assessment of what Clinton actually said.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
5. Snopes is wrong?!? My faith is shattered!
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 02:03 PM
Aug 2016

Actually it doesn't make sense that the crowd would react as though she said 'aren't', yet the 'n' is inaudible on the tape.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
6. Snopes is wrong on this one. I saw some news
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:17 PM
Aug 2016

this morning, (I watch too much stuff about the Trump campaigns) and it was..I think it was AM Joy,
she is the one that said to them that it was not right....THEY DID HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT

lapucelle

(18,277 posts)
9. And the video with the subtitles and the doctored 'nt
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:00 PM
Aug 2016

was embedded in an email from Trump, so everyone on his mailing list got it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. Trump destroyed objective truth so the answer is to just make stuff up about him...
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:41 AM
Aug 2016

In addition to all the horrible true things about him.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
3. Not to mention that anyone who pays attention to politics knows that no candidate would announce
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 11:46 AM
Aug 2016

a middle-class tax hike during a campaign.

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