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Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 05:54 PM Aug 2016

What if this is the end of right vs. left?

Something the family was just kicking around the dinner table, as we realized that -- for the first time ever -- we will be voting differently from our dearest lefty compatriots (who despise Hillary and can't be talked out of voting for Stein), but are being joined in supporting Hillary by our Republican family and friends:

Suppose Hillary achieves a crushing victory -- and a large part of that victory comes from crossover votes from "sensible Republicans," of the sort that used to be abundant in the Northeast and Midwest in particular (i.e., economic conservative/social liberal types; and yes, they still exist).

Suppose Trump makes good on his plan to label his loss a rigged election -- and he's joined not only by his Neanderthal followers but by the BoBs who have already been claiming Clinton victories are the result of rigging the vote.

Hillary still wins, of course (hurrah!). And teh Democratic Party is bigger than ever (hurray!). But American politics reconstitutes into the Party of the Governing Class and the Party of Angry Malcontents -- or the Party of Shore It Up and the Party of Burn It Down, as I like to think of it. Are you ready to be part of the Governing Class Party? I am, I guess, but I'm a middle-aged white guy with privilege to spare; it seems like a funny position for the Democratic Party as a whole to be in -- especially if Meg Whitman et al. decide to stay and make themselves at home...

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What if this is the end of right vs. left? (Original Post) Proud Public Servant Aug 2016 OP
No one has asked you to adopt Meg Whitman's political views emulatorloo Aug 2016 #1
In her endorsement Meg said she has many policy disagreements with Hillary... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #4
More like the self imposed irrelevancy of the fringe whatthehey Aug 2016 #2
The left is with Clinton vs Trump. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #3
+1 JoePhilly Aug 2016 #5

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
1. No one has asked you to adopt Meg Whitman's political views
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

HRC and Dem platform are the opposite of Republican platform. If the "Governing Class" is liberal and pro-progress, why would you feel guilt over aligning yourself with that?

Busters are not a significant number, especially those who shit on progressive policies by aligning themselves w Trump or by helping Stein in her quest to stop Trump by getting him elected.

Why would you feel guilt over rejecting that?

It seems to me you are creating a problem for yourself by thinking in a misguided and rigidly binary way.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. In her endorsement Meg said she has many policy disagreements with Hillary...
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:18 PM
Aug 2016

In her endorsement Meg said she has many policy disagreements with Hillary but is voting for her because Trump is bad for the nation and the world.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
2. More like the self imposed irrelevancy of the fringe
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:12 PM
Aug 2016

Once Clinton wins without the absurd fringe element who consider Stein as capable of any office above HOA chair at a stretch (and who laughably claim to be the base of a party for whom they refuse to vote) we will see the sane majority can carry a candidate to a crushing victory. Obviously it helps that the other major party suicidally nominated a 3rd grade intellect and personality.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. The left is with Clinton vs Trump.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 06:17 PM
Aug 2016

It's only the usual narcissists, cranks and special snowflakes that are with Stein. Same shitheads who claimed "Bush=Gore."

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