2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOK, so the talking heads are still talking about the 3 emails (out of 30,000) that
were classified. Yes, I posted something about it after hearing it on the supposedly informed and unbiased PBS NewsHour.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/classified-emails-clinton-still-asserts-innocence-language-varied/
LISA DESJARDINS: That leaves two questions. Was Hillary Clinton truthful when she said none of her e-mails were marked classified? No. Three out of 30,000 were marked classified. And did she intentionally lie to Congress about that? Well, that is a matter for debate. Comey has not given an opinion.
But, as some DUers point it out, when Representative Matt Cartwright ask more pointed questions, Comey admitted that these three emails were not properly identified as classified:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/7/1546038/-Comey-tanks-key-GOP-talking-point-admits-classified-materials-were-not-properly-marked
And I don't think you were given a full chance to talk about those three documents with the little c's on them. Were they properly documented? Were they properly marked according to the manual?
JAMES COMEY: No. [...]
MATT CARTWRIGHT: According to the manual, if you're going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document? Right?
JAMES COMEY: Correct.
MATT CARTWRIGHT: Was there a header on the three documents that we've discussed today that had the little c in the text someplace?
JAMES COMEY: No. There were three e-mails, the c was in the body, in the text, but there was no header on the email or in the text.
MATT CARTWRIGHT: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert about what's classified and what's not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?
JAMES COMEY: That would be a reasonable inference.
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Thus, I think that if Hillary is being asked, again, instead of apologizing, she should emphatically say that Comey himself agreed that they were not properly classified.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)I watch especially on CNN.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)"What Director Comey said UNDER OATH was that none of the 30,000 emails were properly marked as classified, and that no one - including Hillary Clinton - possesses clairvoyant abilities that would have allowed her to divine if any of them were actually classified. In addition, when under oath, Director Comey corrected the impression he had given while not under oath in his press conference that any of the emails were marked classified. He also agreed with the State Department that two of the three emails that he had implied had been classified were - in fact - improperly marked so."
duncang
(1,907 posts)Native
(5,942 posts)And as I understand it, the " c)" was at the bottom of these emails, which were an accumulation of like 10-12 responses per email. And didn't the state dept. determine that they were marked with the " c)" erroneously? I remember someone on the committee asking Comey if he knew that the state dept. had determined that none of the 3 were actually classified, and he answered, "no" with a look of surprise on his face. Did I imagine that or did that also occur?
question everything
(47,476 posts)that there is disagreement between what she says and what, apparently, Comey says. I would have thought that at least, on MSNBC, someone would have commented.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)this morning was visibly animated with excitement about some gotcha questions about that Hillary/Chris Wallace interview last weekend. Of course, no one even gets to the part that you posted.
I think I'm going to print this portion out to keep as a quick reference. This puts it all to bed. Sometime soon the campaign just needs to read this portion of the Comey questioning and leave it at that. This is just entertainment at this point.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... a report even on PBS that gives the whole story. Lisa DeJardin's was an improvement because she ended with "Did Hillary lie? We don't know." or "We don't yet know." That's a step forward from "She lied." (Domenico Montanaro). But yeah, let's report that a reasonable person could easily have missed the (c)'s, according to Comey's own opinion.