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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:28 PM Aug 2016

I Think The Rs Play Now Is To Say Hillary Won't/Doesn't Have A Mandate

Looking at the polls, Hillary's lead is pretty much in the ballpark of the lead President Obama held over Romney in August 2012, before and after the conventions.

Rs know that Trump can't win. He's a much worse candidate than Romney ever was. Romney couldn't turn it around against Obama, and Trump won't turn it around against Hillary.

I believe we will be seeing more and more Rs deserting Trump, while not overtly supporting Hillary. There's a strategy there:

1. They will spend their time, energy and $ trying to hold onto their majorities in both houses, and

2. They will build a narrative that Hillary did not earn a mandate by winning because "she should have won by a huge margin considering how bad Trump was and how many Rs had deserted him."

What will that margin need to be for them to make such a claim? Well, it really won't matter. No matter how big her margin, it will be deemed too small by the Rs, and that meme will be picked up by the media and trumpeted as some obvious truth. If she wins by 4 points - as did Obama in 2012 - it will be tantamount to "she nearly lost." If she wins by 8 points, she shoulda won by 12. If she wins by twelve, she shoulda won by 20.

How do I know this will happen? By the simple fact that DU members are already saying those things about Hillary's lead today...and if supposedly partisan Ds are going to make such ahistoric pronouncements about their own candidate, you can be sure her enemies will pick up and expand on the same bullshit every chance they get.

To me, a win is a win. If Hillary wins by .1% in the popular vote, she still won. The media and the Rs will disagree, vehemently. Don't enable their bullshit by demanding that Hillary perform at a level that has never been demanded of a male candidate for president.

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I Think The Rs Play Now Is To Say Hillary Won't/Doesn't Have A Mandate (Original Post) stopbush Aug 2016 OP
I'm seeing R's resigned to the fact that Hillary The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #1
The Republicans abandoned all rights to the mandate argument in 2000 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #2
Mandate is a Georgetown cocktail party word. It means nothing bluestateguy Aug 2016 #3
You can depend on the R's to denigrate her at every turn apcalc Aug 2016 #4
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
1. I'm seeing R's resigned to the fact that Hillary
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

Is going to select liberal justices, tighten gun laws and so on . That sounds like a mandate to me.

The Olympics seem to be assisting Hillary with good news and vibes. Trumps message is being ignored for a change.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Mandate is a Georgetown cocktail party word. It means nothing
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

If you win an election with 60% of the vote with big coattails in Congress it still doesn't mean that you deserve a blank check to do whatever you want.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
4. You can depend on the R's to denigrate her at every turn
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 05:53 PM
Aug 2016

AND obstruct every thing she tries to do just like Obama.

It is critical we get control of the House and Senate.

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