I live west of Cleveland and a couple of the communities are called suburbs or West Virginia

... coal mines are full of them.

The area around Paint Creek Lake that I mentioned used to be a big coal mining area.

I feel some pity for them too because I know that they and their ancestors have/had some pretty rough lives.

As a native of Pittsburgh once told me

"There's Philly and Pittsburgh and a whole lot of Alabama in between"
-James Carville

Very rural area.
I found it quite shocking the first few times I went out there after having spent lots of time in Philly and Pitts.
Lack of respect for people of color, unions, and any sort of education or teachers.
But they sure like complaining about shit.

I get a kick out of making some Deliverance references sometimes.

Southern Ohio indeed tends to have a larger share of them than many other places that I've seen.

I went fishing with a buddy down there, and he was truly frightened by them and their general animosity toward us. LOL! He said that I'd need to ask them for directions if necessary because he wasn't going to do it again.

A lot of it was filmed in this area. There's also an area in the mountains not far away that my realtor refused to go into to show listings. I did go myself just to cross one with a wonderful view off the list, but all I saw in the woods was probable druggies/meth-makers who couldn't afford the city. Expressionless glances but I didn't slow down to check for animosity.

Here's another personal story, but the sampling is so small that it probably means NOTHING.

When I was in Atlanta for a conference several years ago, I detected some leeriness from black people when I walked into gas stations and the like (I'm super-white). As soon as I spoke, they acted so nice and friendly! It was pretty much the opposite of what I experienced in Southern Ohio (from white people there).

extremely reserved faces, eyes that didn't see me, of some black people I'd interact with in stores, etc. Extremely different from California. Both a defensive and an offensive mien depending on the person.

should assume anything.

National polls should never be relied on for Presidential elections where states determine who the President will be through the electoral college

Hillary is schlonging Trump there.

PA looks good though.

They still seem to be an outlier.

The OH number seems consistent with other polls though fivethirtyeight doesn't show any polls more recent than July 24

Latinos are more in Florida than their representation as a whole in the country and there's no way Florida is that close. You tried it Quinnipiac

And without PA there is no way for Trump to win save for flipping some reliably blue states.

They haven't incorporated these polls into their model yet, but the last Quinnipiac polls, they adjusted for the house effect with +5 for Hillary.

Seems the effect of adding Johnson and Stein almost always decreases Clinton's lead. For instance when they are included Florida is a tie. Wonder if Stein is actually the one pulling votes from Clinton (net)?

he's losing badly in those states. Not good news for The Donald™.

They have a consistant trend towards republicans. So he says its Florida +5, Ohio +8, Penn +13

Our Latinos are mostly Cuban, many of them repug, however Miami votes Democratic as does Palm Beach & Broward (Fort Lauderdale).

Many Latino reps in Miami, although repug, do not support the maggot.

Orlando has been going Dem lately & Gainesville is Dem (U of FL), & Tampa

2008, 2012 were close, Obama winning by 61,000 in 08, 73,000 in 12.

VOTE, VOTE for HER

is nothing but a dream.