2016 Postmortem

napkinz

(17,199 posts) Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:36 AM Aug 2016

Trump Says He Was Being SARCASTIC When He Called President Obama & Hillary Co-Founders Of ISIS

Maybe Donald Trump doesn’t know what sarcasm means.

The GOP presidential nominee blasted the media early Friday for allegedly misunderstanding the sarcasm in his assertion that President Obama founded ISIS — and just hours after he claimed he really meant what he said.

“Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) ‘the founder’ of ISIS, & MVP. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?” the real estate mogul tweeted Friday, referring to coverage of his comments at a Wednesday night rally.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-insists-obama-founded-isis-sarcasm-article-1.2748353
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/politics/donald-trump-obama-clinton-isis-founder-sarcasm/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/12/donald-trump-obama-isis-founder-sarcasm
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-isis.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-obama-islamic-state-sarcasm-226947

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Trump Says He Was Being SARCASTIC When He Called President Obama & Hillary Co-Founders Of ISIS (Original Post) napkinz Aug 2016 OP

if he means that obama will destroy isis, then yes, calling him their founder would be sarcasm. unblock Aug 2016 #1

yeah Lithos Aug 2016 #2

he's playing the media napkinz Aug 2016 #3

Pathetic Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #4

he's turning the election into a circus napkinz Aug 2016 #5

You left TWEETS out of your list of Trump's projected governing tools. nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #22

Another word for which he doesn't know the meaning. nt glennward Aug 2016 #6

He's an idiot Dem2 Aug 2016 #7

How would you like defending him on this one? tonyt53 Aug 2016 #8

I'm sure Rudy will have no problem defending him. napkinz Aug 2016 #10

He repeated it OVER and OVER again. auntpurl Aug 2016 #9

Yeah, Hugh Hewitt NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #14

and Hewitt told Lawrence O'Donnell last night he still thinks Trump will win napkinz Aug 2016 #17

because Trump will suddenly be masterful and in command of the facts NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #18

Hewitt said it's close in Florida and Ohio napkinz Aug 2016 #19

maybe if Rick Scott pulls some Jeb-like shenanigans NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #20

Bull. Shit. DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #11

Agreed. It was completely calculated. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #12

Perfect. He just threw all of his surrogates under the bus. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #13

We were just discussing the use of sarcasm with the press okwmember Aug 2016 #15

Classic Jedi mind trick BlueInPhilly Aug 2016 #16

Hugh Hewitt tried repeatedly to lead Trump to an "acceptable" interpretation of that claim, tblue37 Aug 2016 #21

unblock

(52,241 posts)

1. if he means that obama will destroy isis, then yes, calling him their founder would be sarcasm.

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:38 AM

Aug 2016

Lithos

(26,403 posts)

2. yeah

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:38 AM

Aug 2016

So, Don 'splain why you repeated it so many times by people who were asking you to clarify your point?

L-

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

3. he's playing the media

Reply to Lithos (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:46 AM

Aug 2016

he's a manipulator

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)

4. Pathetic

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:47 AM

Aug 2016

He is a clown. Watching his surrogates get marched out day after day to try to explain what Donald really meant is a window into the horror that a Trump Presidency would be. They'd have to have a Department of What the hell Trump really Meant. You simply cannot govern with jokes, sarcasm, hyperbole, and exaggerations. It's not the mark of a strong leader. This is a serious job, you mean what you say and you say what you mean.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

5. he's turning the election into a circus

Reply to Johnny2X2X (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:59 AM

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tblue37

(65,377 posts)

22. You left TWEETS out of your list of Trump's projected governing tools. nt

Reply to Johnny2X2X (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:11 PM

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glennward

(989 posts)

6. Another word for which he doesn't know the meaning. nt

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:03 AM

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Dem2

(8,168 posts)

7. He's an idiot

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:04 AM

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tonyt53

(5,737 posts)

8. How would you like defending him on this one?

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:07 AM

Aug 2016

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

10. I'm sure Rudy will have no problem defending him.

Reply to tonyt53 (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:27 AM

Aug 2016

Rudy was on CNN defending Trump on the 2nd Amendment remarks yesterday.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)

9. He repeated it OVER and OVER again.

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:07 AM

Aug 2016

IN that rally, on the PHONE with reporters, in an INTERVIEW, and in TWO OTHER events the same day! He literally f*cking SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. When people tried to throw him a lifeline and get him to -

You know what, I just can't, with this mother f*cker.

Someday, Donald Trump is going to look a TV reporter in the eye on national television and say "I never ran for president."

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

14. Yeah, Hugh Hewitt

Reply to auntpurl (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:43 AM

Aug 2016

even tried to get Trump to clarify that he meant Obama created the conditions that allowed Isis to come into existence, but Trump insisted that Obama actually founded Isis. He could have claimed sarcasm there, but NO....

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

17. and Hewitt told Lawrence O'Donnell last night he still thinks Trump will win

Reply to NewJeffCT (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:18 PM

Aug 2016

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

18. because Trump will suddenly be masterful and in command of the facts

Reply to napkinz (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:43 PM

Aug 2016

during the debates?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)

19. Hewitt said it's close in Florida and Ohio

Reply to NewJeffCT (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:45 PM

Aug 2016

He thinks Trump has a good chance of winning both.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

20. maybe if Rick Scott pulls some Jeb-like shenanigans

Reply to napkinz (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:04 PM

Aug 2016

in Florida, but I don't think Kasich will lift a finger to help Trump.

DinahMoeHum

(21,791 posts)

11. Bull. Shit.

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:31 AM

Aug 2016

He kniows damn well what he's doing.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)

12. Agreed. It was completely calculated.

Reply to DinahMoeHum (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:34 AM

Aug 2016

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)

13. Perfect. He just threw all of his surrogates under the bus.

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:38 AM

Aug 2016

How is that Trump surrogate stuff working out for you Rudy?

okwmember

(345 posts)

15. We were just discussing the use of sarcasm with the press

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:45 AM

Aug 2016

in another thread.

Look at how badly it went for Josh Lyman on The West Wing and he was 100 times more politically savvy than Trump.

Trump is full of shit. He knew exactly what he was saying and trying to imply. We've got another 3 months of this bullshit unless the Repugs find a way to dump him. Although to be fair, Trump apparently has quite a few "secret plans" to solve our ills.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)

16. Classic Jedi mind trick

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:49 AM

Aug 2016

but only those jedis who went to the Dark side

tblue37

(65,377 posts)

21. Hugh Hewitt tried repeatedly to lead Trump to an "acceptable" interpretation of that claim,

Reply to napkinz (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:10 PM

Aug 2016

but Trump kept slapping his efforts away, insisting that he really, really, really meant literally that Obama founded ISIS.

He can't go all Emily Latella on it now:

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