2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBrain-melting interview between Trump and Hugh Hewitt
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/12/donald-trump-has-an-airtight-sensible-excuse-for-why-he-said-president-obama-founded-isis/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumprevealed-745a-top%3Ahomepage%2FstoryHe continued: "He was the founder of ISIS and so was [Hillary]. I call them co-founders.... Because of the way he got out.... He shouldn't have gotten out the way he got out. It was a disaster what he did. Is there something wrong with saying that? Are people complaining that I said he was the founder of ISIS? All I do is tell the truth. I am a truth teller."
Radio host Hugh Hewitt got Trump to commit to that view even more strongly.
HEWITT: Last night, you said the president was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant. You meant that he created the vacuum; he lost the peace.
TRUMP: No, I meant hes the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the Most Valuable Player Award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.
HEWITT: But hes not sympathetic to them. He hates them. Hes trying to kill them.
TRUMP: I dont care. He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay? ...
HEWITT: I know what youre arguing
TRUMP: Youre not, and let me ask you, do you not like that?
HEWITT: I dont. I think I would say they created, they lost the peace. They created the Libyan vacuum, they created the vacuum into which ISIS came, but they didnt create ISIS. Thats what I would say.
TRUMP: Well, I disagree.
There was no "Right, I was making a point" or "I misspoke" in that. Trump said that, no, he really meant that Obama had founded the Islamic State and that Trump had to "disagree" when Hewitt said that wasn't the case. (Do we need to point out at this late hour that, of course, Obama didn't found the Islamic State? Well, he of course didn't.)
On Friday morning, at long last, Trump explained his rationale.
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) "the founder" of ISIS, & MVP. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?
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How does anyone deal with this man???
It's seriously just like arguing with a 2 year old.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)cheney so stated in a 1994 interview when he said if you took out Hussein you would create a vacuum and you would not know what you would end up with
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)what's weird is Trump seems to be hinting at some secret idea that Obama really secretly helped or promoted ISIS, but he won't come out with any details. It's just mindless blather. Then-- JUST KIDDING!! haha!!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Chemisse
(30,811 posts)As if he knows something special and people just have to take his word for it (because, you know, he has a great brain - the best, in fact).
Tactical Peek
(1,209 posts)Hugh Hewitt: I dont. I think I would say they created, they lost the peace. They created the Libyan vacuum, they created the vacuum into which ISIS came, but they didnt create ISIS. Thats what I would say.
Donald Trump: Well, I disagree.
HH: All right, thats okay.
DT: I mean, with his bad policies, thats why ISIS came about.
HH: Thats
DT: If he would have done things properly, you wouldnt have had ISIS.
HH: Thats true.
DT: Therefore, he was the founder of ISIS.
HH: And thats, Id just use different language to communicate it, but let me close with this, because I know Im keeping you long, and Hopes going to kill me.
DT: But they wouldnt talk about your language, and they do talk about my language, right?
HH: Well, good point. Good point.
Trump loves his dominion over the media.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Ever thought of that?
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)And I know it's silly to try to figure his words out, but yes, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO JUDGE YOUR WORDS WHEN YOU ARE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, YOU IDIOT.
caquillo
(521 posts)... but he's too stupid or arrogant or whatever else.
TRUMP: No, I meant hes the founder of ISIS. I do.