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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:01 PM Aug 2016

Can we take a minute to just applaud Hillary for the great campaign she is running?

I am amazed at her poll numbers and i was so impressed with the convention. They are staying on target and being super disciplined about their message.

She and Tim Kaine are doing a great job and should be congratulated for not getting distracted by bullshit. Or worse creating BS like Trump does.

I know the media has really made this about Trumps failure and less about Clinton's success, because that's a narrative that sells well. But I think that's bullshit. She's winning not just because Trump sucks, but because they are insanely hardworking and disciplined people.

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Can we take a minute to just applaud Hillary for the great campaign she is running? (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 OP
Yes! :-D NurseJackie Aug 2016 #1
The Clinton campaign is well organized Gothmog Aug 2016 #2
Yes! LisaM Aug 2016 #3
She's a tough customer, taking all that abuse from the Right and the Donald...... Jade Fox Aug 2016 #4
Good points. Arkansas Granny Aug 2016 #5
I agree romana Aug 2016 #6
Agreed and maybe the focus on Trump landolfi Aug 2016 #7
But but--the press conferences!!!111!! Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #98
I agree. Her long game is working for her now. She knows what she is doing and how to do it. pnwmom Aug 2016 #9
I'm certain of it! BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #26
Yes! She has steadily presented her plans, policies and priorities MineralMan Aug 2016 #10
And she expanded on the mutual benefits of equal pay. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2016 #16
My only problem with the equal pay proposal is the details scscholar Aug 2016 #130
I think of it this way. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2016 #142
Agreed! yardwork Aug 2016 #11
Fearless... Mike Nelson Aug 2016 #12
I don't agree completely Dirty Socialist Aug 2016 #13
She had double digit leads in some swing states La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #14
I saw a poll result here on DU Dirty Socialist Aug 2016 #19
Look at the state polls. We vote in states La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #21
Hillary is doing well by Dirty Socialist Aug 2016 #23
Absolute bullshit. stopbush Aug 2016 #35
And Republicans aren't fleeing to Johnson. spooky3 Aug 2016 #40
I agree it's a good campaign Dirty Socialist Aug 2016 #41
ALL candidates, like all humans, are flawed. spooky3 Aug 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #46
That is a function of factors other than things she has done. spooky3 Aug 2016 #52
Yes! The smears against her have been going on for 30 years. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #72
If what you say about her being the "most disliked party nominee in modern history" is true Haveadream Aug 2016 #75
I like her. Granted some of her schtick is from a diff. era but I trust HC. And no, I'm not an idiot MichiganVote Aug 2016 #86
More bullshit. stopbush Aug 2016 #45
OMG-dude, or your dudeness, how would you know what it takes to run as a woman??? MichiganVote Aug 2016 #85
I don't see the point of saying this Cary Aug 2016 #136
Lol- I'm shocked some people are my complaining about that, too... bettyellen Aug 2016 #70
What does that even mean? You do understand, don't you, that the race is won or lost on Squinch Aug 2016 #104
Systematic Johnny2X2X Aug 2016 #15
Can't argue with the results... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #17
Apparently some people can Cary Aug 2016 #137
Worth every minute. Thank You Secretary Clinton! MichiganVote Aug 2016 #18
Yes! DesertRat Aug 2016 #20
Yes indeed ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #22
I am glad to see her hard work and perseverance paying off for our Party. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #24
... MoonRiver Aug 2016 #25
F*cking CO-SIGNED. auntpurl Aug 2016 #27
Yes, she's doing fine. Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #28
An amazing feat, really, considering how small it is... calimary Aug 2016 #47
+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #29
Yes! I wish the media would cover more of her speeches. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #30
I agree Dirty Socialist Aug 2016 #32
Thank You rbrnmw Aug 2016 #31
She is running a very smart campaign mcar Aug 2016 #33
Very smart people, with lots of experience, do tend to do that. calimary Aug 2016 #48
Too true mcar Aug 2016 #50
Agreed. deathrind Aug 2016 #34
Trump has gone up against real pros Ellen Forradalom Aug 2016 #36
Amen nt lillypaddle Aug 2016 #37
It's because her campaign doesn't even face the pressure anymore... TRoN33 Aug 2016 #38
Hillary is setting the example a presidential candidate should be doing, she does Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #39
No, no I can't Uponthegears Aug 2016 #43
She also ran a very smart campaign in the primary. Looking fwd to how she'll do as President! Kaleva Aug 2016 #44
Yes! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #49
Trump's failures didn't help any of the Republicans he ran against.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #51
Yes! glennward Aug 2016 #53
Don't think I'm at "great" yet but very good UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #54
"Stronger Together" and "Love Trumps Hate" Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #81
Lol. I guess the slogan IS as deep as some people go. Squinch Aug 2016 #105
Yes, the campaign has been really on message and much better than I expected Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #55
Smart Smart Smart! johnp3907 Aug 2016 #56
Convention seemed good. Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #57
They have their eyes on the prize. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #58
Let's also applaud Trump Joisey Boy Aug 2016 #59
just too hard for you to compliment a strong woman? Skittles Aug 2016 #91
I'm noticing there is a WHOLE lot of that in this thread. Squinch Aug 2016 #101
The concern on their furrowed brows is concerning... spooky3 Aug 2016 #120
Lets not and say we did. Guy's a complete train wreck. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #94
:-) spooky3 Aug 2016 #122
Yes. George II Aug 2016 #60
Well said! Marthe48 Aug 2016 #61
I've been impressed by her ability to remain unruffled Fenris Aug 2016 #62
Hillaries campaign= jambo101 Aug 2016 #63
Yep canetoad Aug 2016 #65
Yeah, yea, yea, yea, yea. Also, heard some new polling came out today & really looks great. EV_Ares Aug 2016 #64
YES!!! N/T MBS Aug 2016 #66
She has done very well. I am very proud to be a Hillary supporter. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #67
K&R! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #68
Yes, I'm so proud of her NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #69
K&r Politicub Aug 2016 #71
K&R Peacetrain Aug 2016 #73
You bet! DCBob Aug 2016 #74
Seriously? Could Trump be running a worse campaign? Clinton is skilled, but how much Vattel Aug 2016 #76
Pulling ahead? You thought she was ever behind? Lol. People are talking about gains in the house and bettyellen Aug 2016 #83
Oops. I meant pulling further ahead. Vattel Aug 2016 #87
Not a "true believer" just someone who called out your nay saying nonsense..... bettyellen Aug 2016 #88
"She is delivering a rout that no other candidate could have delivered." Vattel Aug 2016 #90
You keep downplaying the fact that more states are leaning blue - states she won handily in the bettyellen Aug 2016 #92
I don't know why you are so sensitive about this. Vattel Aug 2016 #124
She is winning because she is the anti Trump. Two candidates who accuse everyone of corruption and bettyellen Aug 2016 #138
~ fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #93
You are a true believer, so I'm not surprised that you cannot see her excellence as a candidate. Squinch Aug 2016 #106
She didn't win the primary by way of dumb luck. She is running a good campaign against Trump. Vattel Aug 2016 #125
WTH? When will the dismissive snark stop? KMOD Aug 2016 #132
If anything is clear, it is that Trump is not just another Republican. Vattel Aug 2016 #139
no doubt, you'll supply us with objective evidence LanternWaste Aug 2016 #144
Clinton is a very skilled politician. She is running a good campaign. Vattel Aug 2016 #145
Well, since none of the other 13 GOP candidates pulled it off spooky3 Aug 2016 #121
Yep, I was skeptical but I think she has the makings of a good coalition- builder - thats what Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2016 #77
She obviously is earning huges votes of confidence. R B Garr Aug 2016 #78
Ah yes the woman is smah-ter tavernier Aug 2016 #79
Have to say, the "issues" section of her website is impressive. Imperialism Inc. Aug 2016 #80
No way. vkkv Aug 2016 #82
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #107
Lol La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #110
Meaning? vkkv Aug 2016 #111
Absolutely! lunamagica Aug 2016 #84
Absolutely! She's the best possible choice, for her good... LAS14 Aug 2016 #89
Hmmm Lithos Aug 2016 #95
k&r Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 #96
She's definitely running a better campaign than 2008. I think she learned a lot from Obama. Drunken Irishman Aug 2016 #97
Sure, let's definitely give the credit to a man. nt auntpurl Aug 2016 #112
It's amazing, isn't it? athena Aug 2016 #114
She ran a horrible campaign in 2008 Drunken Irishman Aug 2016 #116
I'd love to call it "great", but it is merely adequate up to this point. King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #99
You maintain high concern at the gates. We'll be over here taking a Squinch Aug 2016 #103
We're fortunate that GOP nominated a fucking buffoon who's not even running a real campaign. Chakab Aug 2016 #117
So, the question to ask ourselves is this: King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #134
I think Donald Trump is cleaning the clock of Donald Trump. King_Klonopin Aug 2016 #135
Competent! vlyons Aug 2016 #100
This is difficult for you, isn't it? Squinch Aug 2016 #102
not at all vlyons Aug 2016 #108
Can't believe I missed this OP ealier. Thank you --and yes, great campaign. REC riversedge Aug 2016 #109
Hard to tell really... Powdered Toast Man Aug 2016 #113
k and r niyad Aug 2016 #115
Kick! Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #118
I don't want to count any chickens, but she looks more Presidential every day. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #119
K&R betsuni Aug 2016 #123
Yep rock Aug 2016 #126
kick & highly recommended! William769 Aug 2016 #127
K&R! RKP5637 Aug 2016 #128
Yes!!! kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #129
kick Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #131
199. Some lucky SOB is going to be # 200. ffr Aug 2016 #133
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2016 #140
Yes! Butterflies Aug 2016 #141
I'm so proud of her. We needed her best MirrorAshes Aug 2016 #143

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
4. She's a tough customer, taking all that abuse from the Right and the Donald......
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:07 PM
Aug 2016

I don't think I could do it.

romana

(765 posts)
6. I agree
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:09 PM
Aug 2016

She made a great choice in Robby Mook. The media has spent a lot of time trying to insist her campaign is in disarray, but it's obviously not. They've been very disciplined. She learned her lessons from 2008 well.

landolfi

(234 posts)
7. Agreed and maybe the focus on Trump
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Aug 2016

is occurring because he is not a hardworking and disciplined person. Quite the opposite.

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
8. But but--the press conferences!!!111!!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:12 PM
Aug 2016

She needs to answer questions about emails all day--every day!!

Benghazi!

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #8)

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. I agree. Her long game is working for her now. She knows what she is doing and how to do it.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:15 PM
Aug 2016

I can't wait to see her debate him -- but I'm afraid he'll chicken out.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
26. I'm certain of it!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:51 PM
Aug 2016

And then the country can listen to him try to explain why skipping debates isn't cowardly.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
10. Yes! She has steadily presented her plans, policies and priorities
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:17 PM
Aug 2016

clearly and openly. She has clarified, for example, her attitude toward the TPP trade agreement. Despite all comments to the contrary made by many, she opposes it now, will oppose it after the election and will oppose it as President. She stated that unequivocally in public. I think there's no doubt about those plans.

Anyone curious about her positions on other issues can simply go to her website and look them up. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

You can read her positions and plans right there. There's nothing hidden about it.

She continues her campaign appearances, speaking to the public openly, honestly and sincerely. That is why her poll numbers are rising, and Donald Trump's are sinking. Trump lies, blusters and wanders from subject to subject. Hillary speaks about her plans for this country, without unnecessary drama or outrage.

Hillary Clinton is running a presidential campaign. She's doing it in a focused, directed way. That is why she will move into the White House in January, while Trump disappears into his high rise apartment to live in the luxury to which he is accustomed.

GOTV for Hillary! Please!

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,120 posts)
16. And she expanded on the mutual benefits of equal pay.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Aug 2016

I was waiting for that and heard her say it yesterday. It will help spur the economy as well as improve quality of life.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
130. My only problem with the equal pay proposal is the details
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:59 PM
Aug 2016

As a woman that works just as much as my male coworkers that hasn't taken a single vacation or sick day in over a decade, given the fewer hours most of my other female coworkers work, we would all have to have a pay cut to cover their increase in pay which isn't fair given how they typically refuse to work the reasonable six days a week, ten hours a day most people do here. They would make much more per hour than I do.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,120 posts)
142. I think of it this way.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 02:37 AM
Aug 2016

Since women make up the majority of the workforce, and the corporate pay scale is way out of wack and top heavy, pay equity would be a needed jolt to our stagnant economc growth. Don't forget how greedy those at the tippy top can be.

And once it becomes obvious that paying higher salaies actually spurs economic growth, there ought to be enough leverage to force CEO's and upper management everywhere to equitably share with their successful company's employees the benefits of all of their contributions.

And prove once and for all the failure of trickle down.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
19. I saw a poll result here on DU
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:40 PM
Aug 2016

And she was ahead by 3 1/2 percentage points. I saw the LA Times one and it had her ahead by only one percentage point, but I don't believe that one.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
23. Hillary is doing well by
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:45 PM
Aug 2016

Getting out of the way by letting Chump dig himself a deeper hole. I guess that's good.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
35. Absolute bullshit.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:08 PM
Aug 2016

Give her credit for running an exemplary campaign. That's a huge part of her success, just as it was when she defeated Sanders in the primary. Trump and his screw ups had nothing to do with the fact that she beat Sanders by 13 points.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
41. I agree it's a good campaign
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:20 PM
Aug 2016

But she is still a somewhat flawed candidate. Not as flawed as Trump or Cruz or Rubio or...

Response to spooky3 (Reply #42)

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
52. That is a function of factors other than things she has done.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:01 PM
Aug 2016

The vast majority of people who dislike her cannot point to actions she has taken that can account for it. For example, if they don't condemn men who have taken the same policy positions, then those positions cannot account for their feelings about her.

The millions of RW dollars spent attacking her, with media that either are complicit or fail to challenge attacks that should be challenged, are a huge factor.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
72. Yes! The smears against her have been going on for 30 years.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:04 PM
Aug 2016

Plus, her successes have never gotten media attention. The REPUKE lies do, though.

Those lies saturate the public consciousness, so that people grow a hatred based on osmosis.

I know I was affected by the lies plus lack of awareness of her accomplishments. Those lies can overshadow the facts, even when we know the reality..(or, maybe better to say, "knew&quot

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
75. If what you say about her being the "most disliked party nominee in modern history" is true
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:11 PM
Aug 2016

then she must be running an outstanding campaign to overcome that handicap so decisively.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
86. I like her. Granted some of her schtick is from a diff. era but I trust HC. And no, I'm not an idiot
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:52 PM
Aug 2016

Just not into the whole media - republican -smear thing. She will do some good things for people. She has already. Not every prez. is going to be a rock star you know. She will do fine.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
45. More bullshit.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Aug 2016

She is no more flawed than any other politician.

You're regurgitating 30 years of the RW tearing her down.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
70. Lol- I'm shocked some people are my complaining about that, too...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:07 PM
Aug 2016

Whatever it takes to withhold her any credit.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
104. What does that even mean? You do understand, don't you, that the race is won or lost on
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:15 AM
Aug 2016

electoral votes and that she has at least twice his electoral votes and probably a lot more than that, right?

She's cleaning Donald's clock.

But I understand. Some people just can't allow themselves to believe that fact. It makes them feel all icky.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
15. Systematic
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Aug 2016

She's been extremely disciplined and on message while Trump is acting out. She is staying above the fray while the media and Trump's own party take him to task for the insane things he says.

It's been systematic. Every day she is making the case to the country of why she should be President and every day Trump shows America why he should never be allowed near the White House. It's the long game and she's showing patience and a great work ethic. This will build and build for her.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
24. I am glad to see her hard work and perseverance paying off for our Party.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:50 PM
Aug 2016

She might MAKE this a wave election, where it might not have been before. Nearly every force, from the GOP to the media to Russia, has aligned against her, and she keeps going. That's why she's the candidate I've been supporting since 2008!

HRC deserves a standing ovation for her campaign, IMO.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
27. F*cking CO-SIGNED.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:53 PM
Aug 2016

Of course, because she's a woman, she will work twice as hard and get half the credit. The media story will be about Trump imploding, all the way through and past the election. I'll be surprised if they EVER congratulate her for the incredibly disciplined, smart, and organized campaign she's run.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
47. An amazing feat, really, considering how small it is...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:32 PM
Aug 2016

I'm so proud of Hillary and her campaign. WHAT A CONTRAST she provides! Can anyone, seriously, still claim there's no difference between the parties? Or that there's any difference between the two main candidates?

It proves all kinds of things: how smart she is, how smart a campaign she's waging, how wise it is to trust the professionals rather than the know-nothings who think they can just swoop in and mouth off and the magic reality-show publicity machine will carry them across the finish line? How much she knows, and how many specifics she knows, about the issues? How much hands-on experience - the kind you need for a job like this, that SHE has, and that he DOESN'T? What a flake he is? How flighty and unstable he is? How much impulse control he DOESN'T have? How stable and cool/calm/collected she is, particularly under pressure, while he flies off the handle at the slightest perceived affront?

Remember the slogan "It's The Economy, Stupid"? Well, now we have "It's The Temperament, Stupid".

Does ANYBODY have ANY doubt, by now?

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
34. Agreed.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016

Given what she is running against she could easily dial it back but she is not which is very admirable.

She is an amazing lady. Seems to me she has been on the go since the early 90's and probably before that but it was the early 90's when she went national. She hasn't lost a step or enthusiasm after being in the spot light all these years thru all of the crap republicans have thrown at her. She is going to be an excellent President of the United States.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
36. Trump has gone up against real pros
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:09 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary has done this so many times before, she knows exactly how this works.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
38. It's because her campaign doesn't even face the pressure anymore...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:14 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary are practically taking the cakewalk all the way in her return to the White House. She doesn't have far more respectable opponent to face off against for this elections, obviously. She have to face off against Vladmir Putin's own jag off b*tch.

Sad.

(This post doesn't contain any insults or hurt anyone feeling at all. This is the fact in the reality)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
39. Hillary is setting the example a presidential candidate should be doing, she does
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:19 PM
Aug 2016

Not need to lie, rant and go off the wall remarks. She is trustworthy in her speeches and is staying on point. The convention was great and enjoyable.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
43. No, no I can't
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

Because. . .

we ain't seen nothing yet.

As good as she is doing now, it won't even touch what she has coming up.

I did not support Secretary Clinton in the primaries, but I can say without any doubt whatsoever that she will lead this party to a watershed victory in November.

Vote Blue

From White House to Utilities Board.

Kaleva

(36,301 posts)
44. She also ran a very smart campaign in the primary. Looking fwd to how she'll do as President!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Aug 2016

Focused, dedicated, hard working, knowledgeable about the issues, surrounds herself with highly competent people...

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
51. Trump's failures didn't help any of the Republicans he ran against....
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 04:59 PM
Aug 2016

...But then they took for granted that Trump would never get so far, and so they weren't prepared to fight back when he slipped past their guard. Hillary's had spent her whole political life learning how to deal with heavy-hitting opponents, some that rightly knocked her down and some that cheated and slipped past her guard. She knows that no matter how much your opponent fumbles, you keep moving, keep punching and keep up your guard. Because it only takes one lucky punch to change the outcome.

Which is to say, I agree completely. She's running a tight ship with this campaign, and she's not going to let anything, not even Trump's failures, distract her from winning this match.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
54. Don't think I'm at "great" yet but very good
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:03 PM
Aug 2016

Much better than 2008. She's learned some of the mistakes from that campaign. I think she is held to an unfair higher standard though. Anderson Cooper made a good point about her messaging. Trump has his "Make America Great Again" slogan. Barack Obama had "Change We Can Believe In" Hillary has "I'm with Her". The messaging could be better. When I think of Hillary I can't think of a clear message. It seems like she's got the "Stronger Together" thing going now but I think her messaging could've been much better earlier on.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
81. "Stronger Together" and "Love Trumps Hate"
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:22 PM
Aug 2016

I'd say it's pretty solid.

Earlier on? Only geeks like us were paying attention. That's over now. Her messaging is strong.



 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
55. Yes, the campaign has been really on message and much better than I expected
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:03 PM
Aug 2016

I sure wish there wasn't all this background chatter about emails and the Clinton Foundation, but you can't have everything

Lucky Luciano

(11,256 posts)
57. Convention seemed good.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

It has gotten so ridiculous, she barely needs to say anything - her opponent keeps opening his mouth and looking the fool!! Haha

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
120. The concern on their furrowed brows is concerning...
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:18 PM
Aug 2016

Should I tell them to smile, so that they'll look more attractive?

Marthe48

(16,960 posts)
61. Well said!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

I'm sick of seeing Trump's failure broadcast nightly. I would like to see Ms. Clinton's and Mr. Kaine's successful, adult stumping, but guess we won't get to see much of that.

Fenris

(30,414 posts)
62. I've been impressed by her ability to remain unruffled
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:39 PM
Aug 2016

I noticed it during the primaries, too. In 2008 she seemed at times to get easily flustered and react in a way that didn't always benefit her. She seems quite cool now, though, and is content to sit back and watch Trump bury himself. It's the only strategy that works with people like him.

jambo101

(797 posts)
63. Hillaries campaign=
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:48 PM
Aug 2016

Cool, calm, professional,competent,focused.

Trumps campaign= ,childish,full of hate,disorganized,desperate,incompetent.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
69. Yes, I'm so proud of her
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:03 PM
Aug 2016

AND her campaign. She's the lead in a campaign composed of many smart, accomplished and able people.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
76. Seriously? Could Trump be running a worse campaign? Clinton is skilled, but how much
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:12 PM
Aug 2016

skill is necessary to be pulling ahead of Trump?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
83. Pulling ahead? You thought she was ever behind? Lol. People are talking about gains in the house and
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:20 PM
Aug 2016

Senate- and turning red states blue! You should be singing her praises because she was the candidate who could do all that.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
87. Oops. I meant pulling further ahead.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:52 PM
Aug 2016

You are a true believer, and so I am not surprised you attribute her big lead to her excellence as a candidate. She has run a good campaign IMHO, and obviously Trump's various blunders have helped her a lot. But, hey, if you want to believe that Clinton's brilliance as a candidate is wholly responsible for her lead, that's fine with me.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
88. Not a "true believer" just someone who called out your nay saying nonsense.....
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:04 PM
Aug 2016

She is delivering a rout that no other candidate could have delivered. She alone fought in complete opposition to the bigotry and xenophobia that exemplifies the modern GOP's approach. You ought to thank your lucky stars for her "true believers" for saving this nation from Trump.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
90. "She is delivering a rout that no other candidate could have delivered."
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:16 PM
Aug 2016

Counterfactuals are to prove one way or the other, but I think a well-trained monkey could beat Trump.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
92. You keep downplaying the fact that more states are leaning blue - states she won handily in the
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:35 PM
Aug 2016

Primary. And people are now predicting unprecedented gains in the house and senate. Two third of Dem voters put her there for good reasons- her priorities are our priorities. Well trained monkey my ass.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
124. I don't know why you are so sensitive about this.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:49 PM
Aug 2016

She is doing a great job campaigning. I am sure that has a good effect down ticket. Trump is also helping with that. How much of the credit goes to her and how much goes to Trump is debatable.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
138. She is winning because she is the anti Trump. Two candidates who accuse everyone of corruption and
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Aug 2016

Promise huge "change" voters know cannot be delivered would be a hell of a lot less inspiring to voters. She is increasing turnout and pulling in women from the GOP and it's unprecedented - all because of who she is.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
106. You are a true believer, so I'm not surprised that you cannot see her excellence as a candidate.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:30 AM
Aug 2016

She has run a flawless campaign and right now she is cleaning Donald's clock in electoral votes, which is where she needs to beat him.

She got where she is after decades of battling those who are out to destroy her AND those who work against her by damning her with faint praise. Some of them right here in this thread! No, really, some people actually do that!

But hey, if you want to believe that this woman got herself to the door of the oval office by dumb luck, it's pretty clear that the fact of her excellence is not going to penetrate your "thinking."

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
125. She didn't win the primary by way of dumb luck. She is running a good campaign against Trump.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:55 PM
Aug 2016

She is lucky to have an absurdly weak opponent in the general.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
132. WTH? When will the dismissive snark stop?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:21 PM
Aug 2016

Why is it so hard to accept that the majority of the electorate has chosen and is choosing Hillary Clinton?

As far as tRump goes, he isn't saying anything different than what other republicans have been saying for years. Those aren't blunders, that really is the republican mindset.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
139. If anything is clear, it is that Trump is not just another Republican.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:58 PM
Aug 2016

As for Clinton, she did win the primary, which is hardly surprising. And barring something really weird happening, she will win the general. I hope she is a good president. I disagree with her about a lot of things, but I tend to rely on evidence and logic for my opinions, which puts me well outside of the mainstream.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
144. no doubt, you'll supply us with objective evidence
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:27 AM
Aug 2016

" I tend to rely on evidence and logic for my opinions...."

Then no doubt, you'll supply us with objective evidence which may be interpreted only as her success is due in large part to Trump's incompetence (your premise) rather than her talent( evidence and logic, as you so allege), yes?

Or will goalposts be moved and rationalizations offered, regardless of the self-congratulatory locations outside of a diaphanous and irrelevant mainstream?

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
77. Yep, I was skeptical but I think she has the makings of a good coalition- builder - thats what
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:20 PM
Aug 2016

take to get anything done. She took in the Bernie input commendably well, I think, and made it her own.
And I like Tim Kaine.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
78. She obviously is earning huges votes of confidence.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:23 PM
Aug 2016

Great campaign! A knowledgeable and steady hand. So intelligent! She is doing a great job. Go Clinton-Kaine!

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
80. Have to say, the "issues" section of her website is impressive.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:42 PM
Aug 2016
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

I knew from her 11 hours of testimony she was tough as nails but the issues website shows how knowledgeable she is on the details of policy.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
82. No way.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:37 PM
Aug 2016

Bordering on collusion with DWS and the DNC vs. Bernie? Not exactly exemplary behavior, know what I mean?

But I sure the HELL AM NOT going to vote for Trump!

HRC will be a very fine POTUS, I have not doubt... or perhaps Milquetoast-ish.

Response to vkkv (Reply #82)

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
89. Absolutely! She's the best possible choice, for her good...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:15 PM
Aug 2016

... ideas and commitment. Not just because she's "steady" and "not Trump!"

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
95. Hmmm
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:12 AM
Aug 2016

I think Trump is doing the easy work here...

There is an old saying - never interrupt an enemy making a mistake. However, it's a rather passive comment, so I can't say she's conducting a great campaign. Though she is living by this rule rather scrupulously. She's no fool.

As such, her work is making sure the world understands the errors Trump is making - very easy. I do expect her campaign to not coast and to keep the pressure one. The stakes are not that she'll win, the stakes are the down ticket elections now.

L-

athena

(4,187 posts)
114. It's amazing, isn't it?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:03 PM
Aug 2016

When a man does a good job on something, he gets all the credit. When a woman does a good job, he still gets all the credit.

HRC and BHO are different people, with different approaches and different strengths and weaknesses. HRC's 2016 campaign is nothing like BHO's 2008 or 2012 campaigns. And yet, we're supposed to believe that HRC learned everything she knows from BHO.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
116. She ran a horrible campaign in 2008
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

This go around, she mirrored much of the Obama campaign, even bringing in key people who helped get him elected in 2008 and 2012. Her message has been extremely pro-Obama knowing that her winning coalition is the same one that got Obama to the White House. It's not giving credit to a man - it's telling the truth. Her campaign is night and day compared to eight years ago and much of that had to do with how Obama changed the political game.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
99. I'd love to call it "great", but it is merely adequate up to this point.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:18 AM
Aug 2016

She is ahead 6.3% points on average nationally, according to MSNBC.

She is running against the most offensive, least qualified lunatic in history.

After all of the despicable gaffes which Trump has vomited from his putrid mouth,
Hillary should be winning by double-digits -- not 6.3 points.

Once again, I remind everyone about the special Senate election in Massachusetts:

Martha Coakley was the well-known Democratic A.G. of this very blue state. She
was nice enough, smart enough, did not come across as very personable on screen.
She did not run a very aggressive campaign against a relatively unknown, underfunded
and inexperienced opponent, and she may have taken victory for granted.

Her Republican opponent, Scott Brown, was her intellectual lesser -- a total dullard
with the palooka face to match. He spoke in well-rehearsed, simple-minded, Republican
talking-points. He posed as a man-of-the-people populist, and he wore a barn jacket
and drove a pick up truck as a prop. In reality, he was a member of the monied class who
made money off of money. He also pimped the "political outsider" angle, as if he were
neutral and willing to compromise. The American voter, it seems, is very fickle and gullible.

Does the situation sound familiar ?

Martha Coakley LOST to this nit-wit. She LOST !! I still can't believe it.
We had to put up with this dope until he was beaten by Elizabeth Warren, thank God.

We can't afford to pat ourselves on the back. Just today, more news of another HRC witch hunt
investigation into the Clinton Foundation. The media created her "70% negatives" and they don't
seem to be taking their feet off the gas pedal. She will need to spend every dollar in her war
chest in order to ensure victory in November.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
103. You maintain high concern at the gates. We'll be over here taking a
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:02 AM
Aug 2016

moment to appreciate how fortunate we are in our candidate.

Because that is a nice thing to do and it doesn't cost us anything.

And PS? Hillary is cleaning Donald's clock.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
117. We're fortunate that GOP nominated a fucking buffoon who's not even running a real campaign.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:56 PM
Aug 2016

This backslapping makes very little sense.

If there were any other Republican candidate she'd likely be losing by a considerable margin nationally and in swing states.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
134. So, the question to ask ourselves is this:
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:07 AM
Aug 2016

Is Hillary ahead because she is a lock candidate running a great campaign,
or is she ahead because she is running against a detestable and incompetent opponent ?

(A combination of the two, perhaps ?)

Is she ahead because voters like Hillary, or because they dislike Donald ?
If voters don't like you, they are not completely committed to you.

Let's be HONEST, as you have identified -- We should be thanking God above that Hillary
is running against this troll. She/we would likely be losing if the Republican candidate
were just 50% more human and more philanthropic than Trump.

People ignore the example I gave above at their own peril. The two candidates haven't
even squared off in one debate yet!


The Seahawks also thought they had the Patriots down and out in the Super Bowl ... (oops)

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
135. I think Donald Trump is cleaning the clock of Donald Trump.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:11 AM
Aug 2016

Martha Coakley was a lock to win that Senate Seat, too.

You can be nice, I'll be realistic. It will all balance out in the end...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
100. Competent!
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:19 AM
Aug 2016

competent: adjective

having the necessary ability, knowledge, or skill to do something successfully.
"a highly competent surgeon"
(of a person) efficient and capable.
"an infinitely competent mother of three"
synonyms: capable, able, proficient, adept, adroit, accomplished, complete, skillful, skilled, credentialed, gifted, talented, expert; More
good, excellent;
informal - great, mean, wicked, nifty, ace
"a competent carpenter"
acceptable and satisfactory, though not outstanding.
"she spoke quite competent French"

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
108. not at all
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:13 AM
Aug 2016

why do you think that? One of the 1st things that struck me about Trump, especially during the GOP convention, was how incompetent he is. HRC is very very competent. God willing and a lot of good luck, she will sign a lot of progressive legislation.

Powdered Toast Man

(381 posts)
113. Hard to tell really...
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:54 AM
Aug 2016

I haven't seen her in the news at all since the convention. 99% of the political articles are about what "Trump said next".

Unless she comes out and admits that everything ever said about her is true, I don't see how she could lose anyway.

Since that's obviously not happening, it's really her election to lose, isn't it?

She'll make a fine president, definitely much better than Trump. I won't even have to move to Canada

ffr

(22,670 posts)
133. 199. Some lucky SOB is going to be # 200.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:42 AM
Aug 2016

Yes. A campaign that lives up to her likable traits. Like an orchestra.

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