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babylonsister

(171,074 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:42 AM Aug 2016

Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/conservative-radio-host-weve-created-this-monster-of-fact-hating-right-wing-voters/

Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters
Tom Boggioni
15 Aug 2016 at 13:24 ET


Supporters of Donald Trump at rally (Photo: Joseph Sohm / Shutterstock)


In an interview with Business Insider’s Oliver Darcy, a conservative radio host lamented the fact that conservative media has conditioned its followers to distrust the mainstream media so much that they have become fact-free “monsters.”

In a tweet promoting an upcoming piece on rightwing media, Darcy posted an excerpt from an interview with conservative radio host Charlie Sykes who claims candidates like Donald Trump can say anything on the stump without fear of being fact-checked by the likes of Fox News or conservative websites.

“We’ve basically eliminated any of the referees, the gatekeepers. There’s nobody. Let’s say that Donald Trump basically makes whatever you want to say, whatever claim he wants to make. And everybody knows it’s a falsehood,” he explained. “The big question of my audience, it is impossible for me to say that. ‘By the way, you know it’s false.’ And they’ll say, ‘Why? I saw it on Allen B. West.’ Or they’ll say, ‘I saw it on a Facebook page.’ And I’ll say, ‘The New York Times did a fact check.’ And they’ll say, Oh, that’s The New York Times. That’s bullshit.'”

According to Sykes, any attempts to continue fighting back against misinformation is dismissed with complaints that he has “sold out,” adding, “Then they’ll ask what’s wrong with me for not repeating these stories that I know not to be true.”

Sykes warned “There’s got to be a reckoning on all this.”


“We’ve created this monster,” he warned. “Look, I’m a conservative talk show host. All conservative talk show hosts have basically established their brand as being contrasted with the mainstream media. So we have spent 20 years demonizing the liberal mainstream media. And by the way, a lot has been justifiable. There is real bias. But, at a certain point you wake up and you realize you have destroyed the credibility of any credible outlet out there.”

“And I feeling, to a certain extent, that we are reaping the whirlwind at that,” he continued. “And I have to look in the mirror and ask myself, ‘To what extent did I contribute?'”
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Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2016 OP
He at least has enough brains to see it. He'll get crucified for this. however. Coventina Aug 2016 #1
There they go again with that "liberal media" BS. bulloney Aug 2016 #2
Thanks, anamandujano Aug 2016 #27
Better Avoid Twitter For Awhile Charlie colsohlibgal Aug 2016 #3
He says get the red out Aug 2016 #4
By feeding them lies. And you did it for money. Orsino Aug 2016 #5
i am sure that Charlie Sykes sold the impeach Bill for Whitewater, Al Gore tried to cheat in Florida Botany Aug 2016 #6
Hell, even Beck said the "birther" stuff was "the dumbest thing I've ever heard" 7962 Aug 2016 #32
One simple example of media bias would be done by adding up the time they have devoted world wide wally Aug 2016 #7
And don't forget all the books NewsMax has written about Clinton conspiracies including politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #20
And now the tables are turning... SHRED Aug 2016 #8
yup RW Republican hate radio started what (R)fox TV couldn't do, like call American woman sluts. Sunlei Aug 2016 #9
. caquillo Aug 2016 #10
The conservatives just can't help themselves, can they? canuckledragger Aug 2016 #25
Ever have a doctor say, "Follow my finger"? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #11
I'll give him credit for at least owning up to it eissa Aug 2016 #12
A conservative megaphone suddenly grows a conscience? Gee! Oh, and about that"liberal media" BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #13
i am in sykes home market Suspect he is setting stage to separate himself from trump implosion dembotoz Aug 2016 #14
Probably ^^^this.^^^ "Trump bad! Walker true conservative!" Beartracks Aug 2016 #31
I laugh at the liberal media's bias. Lobo27 Aug 2016 #15
Hard to Believe a RW Having This Much Self Awareness TomCADem Aug 2016 #16
Misinformation - starting with the false premise that Fox, Rush et al isnt "mainstream media" - a Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2016 #17
Hey, Sykes, denial ain't just a river in Egypt. MrScorpio Aug 2016 #18
The right wing has been hating facts since Nixon. Initech Aug 2016 #19
credit where... berksdem Aug 2016 #21
Well. Ya think? Hekate Aug 2016 #22
ROLF mdbl Aug 2016 #30
Would it were that they really, really understood what they have done to America over the past 40-50 glennward Aug 2016 #23
Selling rafeh1 Aug 2016 #24
To what extent did you contribute?? Bozvotros Aug 2016 #26
Well, he's also lying. There is no "liberal bias," in the MSM. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2016 #28
I am no fan of Charlie Sykes, but I have respected his principles ever since listening Enoki33 Aug 2016 #29
Yeah... Jnew28 Aug 2016 #33
And if Drumpf was ahead there would be silence. louis-t Aug 2016 #34
Thank GOD, one conservative that has the brains to change and understand what rladdi Aug 2016 #35
Screw him. He is just looking for a new angle ahead of the loss Person 2713 Aug 2016 #36
THERE NEVER WAS A LIBERAL MEDIA Skittles Aug 2016 #37

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
1. He at least has enough brains to see it. He'll get crucified for this. however.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:46 AM
Aug 2016

Just as he says, he'll get labeled as a sell-out or traitor.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
2. There they go again with that "liberal media" BS.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

If the so-called mainstream media are so liberally biased, why aren't Bush, Cheney and other members of that administration badgered into submission over their lies and mishandling of the invasion of Iraq and sitting in prison as war criminals?

The so-called liberal media keep playing the RW's game with Benghazi, as if terror attacks and killings on U.S. operations overseas are rare. Yet, there were at least a dozen such attacks that resulted in four or more deaths under W's watch. Did we have nonstop coverage on that? What about the 1983 terrorist attack at Beirut under Reagan's watch that resulted in over 240 American deaths? If these sorts of events had happened under Obama's watch, can you imagine the nonstop attacks on him?

If the media are so liberal, why does Reagan enjoy this aura of being an infallible icon with conservatives when his policies and actions are polar opposites on things such as taxes, smaller government, debt, job creation and family value issues such as divorce, out-of-marriage pregnancies and abortion?

I guess if you're using Faux Snooze as your baseline for comparing news objectivity, the NBC's, CBS's, ABC's and CNN's appear to be liberal. Faux is so off-the-charts RW while other media are still far-right to a lesser degree.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
3. Better Avoid Twitter For Awhile Charlie
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

Trump's knuckle dragging deep base will rip him and threaten him. The hardcore one step up from skinhead faction will crucify him.

I would hire a top flight bodyguard too.

Botany

(70,520 posts)
6. i am sure that Charlie Sykes sold the impeach Bill for Whitewater, Al Gore tried to cheat in Florida
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:19 AM
Aug 2016

..... 2000, we have to go into Iraq to keep ourselves safe, and President Obama has
pro Muslim leanings lies too. Did he stand up and call Trump out for his "sending
good people to Hawaii" to check out Barack Obama's place of birth?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
32. Hell, even Beck said the "birther" stuff was "the dumbest thing I've ever heard"
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:35 PM
Aug 2016

O'reilly was another one who dismissed it for the nonsense that it was

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
7. One simple example of media bias would be done by adding up the time they have devoted
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

to Hillary witch hunts (Whitewater, Benghazi, etc) and comparing it to the amount of time spent covering Trump's 3500 lawsuits pending. All we ever get about Trump is his daily outrages. And those are said to distract from the previous outrage.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
20. And don't forget all the books NewsMax has written about Clinton conspiracies including
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

Vince Fosters 'murder'. (That's sarcasm. But Newsmax has a new book out about the Clinton bodycounts). I saw it on a store shelf. I'd google it for the title but then I'd get a lot of popups from RW websites from here to eternity, so I won't bother.

caquillo

(521 posts)
10. .
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:27 AM
Aug 2016
So we have spent 20 years demonizing the liberal mainstream media. And by the way, a lot has been justifiable. There is real bias.


Yeah, 'cause facts have a liberal bias, asshat.

canuckledragger

(1,644 posts)
25. The conservatives just can't help themselves, can they?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

In an article complaining about their followers being facts free, they STILL lie and go fact-free!

eissa

(4,238 posts)
12. I'll give him credit for at least owning up to it
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:40 AM
Aug 2016

Meanwhile, Hannity is still foaming at the mouth on Faux.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. A conservative megaphone suddenly grows a conscience? Gee! Oh, and about that"liberal media"
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

Culturally it's liberal--media gets big bucks from sensationalizing liberal ideas. Politically and financially it's CONservative.

I hate that UN-nuanced chorus line..."Liberal media! Liberal media!! Eek!"

You have to separate and consider the components to respond to these assfasteners effectively.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
14. i am in sykes home market Suspect he is setting stage to separate himself from trump implosion
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:03 PM
Aug 2016

he will be all set to lead the poor misguided trumpers and the enlightened walker supporting gop base to a new fascist nirvana.

he is a snake
he has always been a snake
he will always be a snake

if trump implodes conservatives could take a real hit....he sees this, he is getting in front of it.....
when you got a lemon....he is making lemonaide

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
31. Probably ^^^this.^^^ "Trump bad! Walker true conservative!"
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 08:45 PM
Aug 2016

Butt-saving "epiphany." Still, it's more self-reflection than I've ever seen from a rightwing talking head.

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Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
17. Misinformation - starting with the false premise that Fox, Rush et al isnt "mainstream media" - a
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:20 PM
Aug 2016

multi billion dollar industry that has been shaping political discourse in this country for at least 30 yrs - it sure as heck is "mainstream". What is not "mainstream" about it?????????????????

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
18. Hey, Sykes, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

Still had to take a shot at the small amount of liberal bias in the MSM, didn't he?

berksdem

(595 posts)
21. credit where...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
Aug 2016

credit where credit is do... and he is right. the GOPhers created this mess and hope it is a monumental landslide.

 

glennward

(989 posts)
23. Would it were that they really, really understood what they have done to America over the past 40-50
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

years. I don't think they really grasp the consequences of fact-hating and truth-hating or the consequences of embracing willful ignorance.

How do you get the social institutions that you spew hate about to ever be in a position to actually help you? How do you expect government to serve and protect you when you don't support it? How do you expect to have a great nation when you don't want to pay for it in a way that all its people are able to rise to their best potential? How do you expect to have peace when all you preach is war? WTF is wrong with people?

Bozvotros

(785 posts)
26. To what extent did you contribute??
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

Take a good long look at the hatefilled slack-jawed drooling idiots you and your audience left in Congress and State houses all across the land. I'd say a whole f****** lot.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
28. Well, he's also lying. There is no "liberal bias," in the MSM.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

The research study that supposedly proved that was full of holes.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
29. I am no fan of Charlie Sykes, but I have respected his principles ever since listening
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:36 AM
Aug 2016

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to his interview of Trump in Wisconsin that basically showed how to effectively question the slippery Trump. The demolition of the GOP began with the absence of facts on right wing talk radio, replaced by the incessant vomiting of hate. But the biggest wrecking ball was enthusiastically wielded by Fox News and the so called 'journalists' that prostituted themselves there. They are the primary ones responsible for creating the rotting swamp out of which Trump crawled. How they can morally and professionally live with themselves is beyond me. Maybe they do not realize the national damage they have done. Well I don't expect Hannity to - he is way too dumb!

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
34. And if Drumpf was ahead there would be silence.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 01:36 PM
Aug 2016

Supposedly smart people in my office who make lots of money are still in love with Drumpf.

rladdi

(581 posts)
35. Thank GOD, one conservative that has the brains to change and understand what
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:54 PM
Aug 2016

Donald Trump is doing. Then we have Radio Talk host Hugh Hewitt spewing LIES about Clinton and continues to praise Trump in his speeches. Are these Radio Talk host brainless, or it it they just don't care what they say or who they support. I believe Hewitt would support ISIS if they ran under his party ticket.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
37. THERE NEVER WAS A LIBERAL MEDIA
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 02:36 AM
Aug 2016

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maybe back then it was balanced, and THAT'S why repuke whores cried foul - they needed a network that ONLY talked conservative garbage, and that's how FOX NEWS started

and f*** this guy - he was fine with it when repukes were winning and he was pimping for Scott Walker

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