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Native

(5,942 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:50 PM Aug 2016

DONALD TRUMP TESTS POSITIVE FOR EVERYTHING, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN DOCTOR

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.


It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name, freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?

Unlike the Clinton letter, it does not contain a full medical history for Trump. The letter also has problems with sentence structure and major typographical errors, such as the opening line, “To Whom My Concern.” Most amusing, it says that his medical examination of Trump has “only positive results.” In medical terms, if the test is positive, it confirms the existence of disease. Is this doctor saying Trump has every medical ailment that could be found in examination? Does he not know the meaning of the word? Or, as I suspect, was the letter written by someone in the Trump campaign?
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DONALD TRUMP TESTS POSITIVE FOR EVERYTHING, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN DOCTOR (Original Post) Native Aug 2016 OP
No history of using alcohol products? Agschmid Aug 2016 #1
Guess his vodka wasn't even good whistler162 Aug 2016 #10
My auntie doesn't trust anyone that would say they've never tried alcohol. grossproffit Aug 2016 #16
Yet more lies ailsagirl Aug 2016 #2
And here he is, Trump's "doctor" of gastro stuff. Coyotl Aug 2016 #14
Well, he must be a one hell of a specialist since Trump is so full of shit. grossproffit Aug 2016 #17
Finally, someone makes some sense of why his doc is a gastro guy. Coyotl Aug 2016 #19
Gastro is his GI Joe name. His meth cook name is Heisenberg Monk06 Aug 2016 #39
It is almost written something like the way Don the Con talks liberal N proud Aug 2016 #3
His PSA score is 0.15, very low, my PSA score is a loser, I mean his PSA score is a loser ck4829 Aug 2016 #6
Exactly, as you read that letter, the rest of that just falls in there liberal N proud Aug 2016 #7
It looks like something trump wrote himself. It's so absurd, it's just hilarious lunamagica Aug 2016 #4
No doctor would state exboyfil Aug 2016 #5
Trump! He's Double-Plus Good! maxrandb Aug 2016 #9
... Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #8
Thread winner! grossproffit Aug 2016 #18
I knew someone would get it. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #23
Jesus Christ, my stomach... Hav Aug 2016 #25
Trump has Ebola?? Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #11
While a bodily fluid type virus is possible, Trump's is probably more feces related, such as E. coli TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #20
What else did he test positive for? SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #34
In order to be board certified as a Gastroenterologist, you first get certified in Internal Medicine Siwsan Aug 2016 #12
According to his profile on Lenox Hill Hospital's website, he's board certified in both IM Princess Turandot Aug 2016 #37
No history of orthopaedic surgery? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #13
That isn't how bone spurs are treated. Heel spurs are actually not the problem, but tblue37 Aug 2016 #30
Oh, I've had PF myself TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #33
Signed: Epstein's Doctor JoePhilly Aug 2016 #15
LOL! Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #21
I wondered if anyone would get the reference. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #22
Apparently.... Aviation Pro Aug 2016 #24
"Astonishingly excellent"? auntpurl Aug 2016 #26
It's a fanboy letter pretending to be a medical report He's a gastroenterologist so maybe Trump Monk06 Aug 2016 #29
The most ridiculous part is the misplaced signature. The letter was obviously written tblue37 Aug 2016 #32
I think that may be the way he signs everything except a contract Just waves the letter in the air Monk06 Aug 2016 #38
The signature is the doctor's, not Trump's. Its misplacement indicates that tblue37 Aug 2016 #40
Nothing kills a joke like getting the facts wrong Monk06 Aug 2016 #44
Why would he be taking low dose aspirin and a statin drug if he never had a problem? appleannie1 Aug 2016 #27
Or family history central scrutinizer Aug 2016 #35
He wouldn't. okasha Aug 2016 #36
"To whom my concern" Hav Aug 2016 #28
I sure would not want my test results to be positive. appleannie1 Aug 2016 #31
Rachel covering the story right now on MSNBC! napkinz Aug 2016 #41
She was really enjoying herself! Native Aug 2016 #42
so far she is the only on MSNBC covering it napkinz Aug 2016 #45
His blood Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #43
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Finally, someone makes some sense of why his doc is a gastro guy.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:08 PM
Aug 2016
And i thought it was because the guy writes drug prescriptions ....

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
39. Gastro is his GI Joe name. His meth cook name is Heisenberg
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:32 AM
Aug 2016

AKA the Brown Buffalo AKA Oscar "Zeta" La Costa AKA Dr Nick

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
3. It is almost written something like the way Don the Con talks
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:57 PM
Aug 2016

His PSA score is 0.15 (very low). You almost expect there to be another very or a really low comment. It just does not look professional.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
4. It looks like something trump wrote himself. It's so absurd, it's just hilarious
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Aug 2016

I hope someone tracks down Jacob Bornstein, M.D. Who knows if he is even real.

The guy who was interviewed on CNN about this (I can't remember his name, but he was just awesome) said the letterhead looked like it was made using MS Word

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
5. No doctor would state
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Aug 2016

"will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency". Unless the doctor had examined every president in history, he/she cannot make that statement.

Also Jacob B. passed away in 2010. I can't imagine that the letterhead would not have been changed for five years??



maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
9. Trump! He's Double-Plus Good!
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:11 PM
Aug 2016

Damn thing looks like it comes from one of those ads at the end of old Comic Books or Wrestling Magazines!

- Is Danny kicking sand in your face? Atlas is for you.

- Amazing X-Ray Glasses...see through anything!

- Need a Medical Reference? Just send a self-addressed envelope to .......

Siwsan

(26,269 posts)
12. In order to be board certified as a Gastroenterologist, you first get certified in Internal Medicine
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:46 PM
Aug 2016

During my working life, I was a physician credentialing coordinator, and I had to check the backgrounds, licenses, hospital privileges, insurance coverage and malpractice events for thousands of physicians.

The email being there is likely something his office manager checks.

However, gastro guys don't generally do this type of physical, unless maybe he's a family friend. Someone Trump's age would be better served being seen by a Gerontologist.

That being said, the letter does kind of read like it was composed by someone in Nigeria, who has a fortune to share.

There definitely is a Harold N Bornstein, MD who is a gastroenterologist in NY, NY. And, as I recall, Trump was joined at the mike by a doctor, who I assume was Dr. Bornstein, when he released this hilarious letter. The guy could just be so enamored by Trump that he's willing to risk his professional reputation.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
37. According to his profile on Lenox Hill Hospital's website, he's board certified in both IM
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:43 AM
Aug 2016

and Gastro, and accepts patients for both services. That's quite common in NYC, where there are a lot of sub-specialty MDs vying for referrals from other docs to treat ulcers, heart disease etc. My internist is an infectious disease specialist, but also does regular internal medicine.

The physician who signed the letter is duly licensed in NYS, and has no disciplinary actions on his file according to the state agency that handles such things.

Some of the statements in the letter are downright silly - especially that last sentence - but Newsweek reporter was pretty sloppy IMO.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
13. No history of orthopaedic surgery?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:49 PM
Aug 2016

Wouldn't the removal of his bone spurs in his feet that kept him out of Vietnam be considered orthopaedic surgery?

While I wouldn't call him obese, he's certainly overweight. Several websites state his height to be 6'2" and weight to be 198. No fucking way. He's at least 220 to 230.

No doctor would say he will be the healthiest president in history. That's just bullshit. He's 70. There is no way he's healthier than presidents elected in their 40s and 50s.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
30. That isn't how bone spurs are treated. Heel spurs are actually not the problem, but
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:12 PM
Aug 2016

merely evidence of the problem, which is plantar fasciitis. The spurs do not need to be removed, because they don't cause pain or debilitation.

The swollen, inflamed plantar fascia can be treated conservatively with NSAIDS, foot braces, arch supports, and stretching, but if those methods don't help, surgery is an option.

BUT the surgery merely involves taking a small nick in the plantar fascia, so it isn't being inflamed by being pulled too tight. After healing, one then does stretching exercises to prevent recurrence.

I know, because I had plantar fasciitis in both feet. I healed the right foot with conservative methods, but I had to have surgery (endoscopic plantar fasciotomy) to overcome the problems with my left foot.

The heel spurs that show up on X-rays are just calcified deposits caused by the constant pulling on the heel bone by the plantar fascia. They look as though they must hurt, but they actually don't. The swollen, inflamed plantar fascia is what causes the crippling pain. If the plantar fascia is healed, the heel spurs just eventually go away on their own.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
33. Oh, I've had PF myself
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:49 PM
Aug 2016

It's just funny that heel spurs got him a deferment from serving in Vietnam. It turns out that about 40% of people have them.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
24. Apparently....
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:16 PM
Aug 2016

..."Dr. Bornstein" has an IP and web address, but no web site per se. Interesting that he would include it in a letter head along with a Gmail address that would get flooded two seconds after the "excellent, astonishing physical condition" letter was released.

Of course fatass Trump is not healthy in spite of what this alleged gastro doc says. Let's see the results of his colonoscopy.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
29. It's a fanboy letter pretending to be a medical report He's a gastroenterologist so maybe Trump
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:10 PM
Aug 2016

hired him to endorse Trump Steaks You know a foody consultant with yuge credentials

Trump wrote it and paid the guy some stax of Benjamins to sign it and show up on stage

Astonishingly excellent and the highest sperm count of any presidential candidate Way higher than Hillary Clinton's

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
32. The most ridiculous part is the misplaced signature. The letter was obviously written
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:15 PM
Aug 2016

by Trump and then incompetently printed onto a pre-signed blank page.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
38. I think that may be the way he signs everything except a contract Just waves the letter in the air
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:22 AM
Aug 2016

while his peons attempt to get the pen to hit the paper While tweeting with his other hand

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
40. The signature is the doctor's, not Trump's. Its misplacement indicates that
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:24 AM
Aug 2016

the doctor signed a blank page, and the letter was printed sloppily onto the page as opposed to having the doctor sign a letter he himself prepared after he printed it off.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
27. Why would he be taking low dose aspirin and a statin drug if he never had a problem?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:09 PM
Aug 2016

Statin drugs are not prescribed unless you have high cholesterol.

central scrutinizer

(11,652 posts)
35. Or family history
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:01 PM
Aug 2016

My cholesterol was okay but with my family history (dad died at 37 of a heart attack, other relatives died of strokes or heart disease), my doc had me start taking statins to get it down even further.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
36. He wouldn't.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:56 PM
Aug 2016

Current practice is not to give statins unless the patient has already had a heart attack. They won't affect the first one, but can help prevent a second.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
28. "To whom my concern"
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:10 PM
Aug 2016

10/10 trolling. Reading this, you can almost see Trump chuckling while he wrote that for his amusement at night, believing that no one would take his run seriously. His campaign had to spend hours to persuade him to delete "I can state unequivocally, he would be the most well endowed President ever" from the draft.

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