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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:09 PM Aug 2016

Poll: Debbie Wasserman Schultz leads Tim Canova by 10 points in CD 23 race

U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is ahead of Tim Canova by 10 points, according to a South Florida Sun Sentinel/Florida Atlantic University poll released Sunday.

The poll finds the Democrat incumbent leading Canova 50 percent to 40 percent.

The numbers come as early voting is underway in Florida’s 23rd Congressional District, which encompasses Broward and Miami-Dade counties, where Wasserman Schultz is attempting to win a seventh term in office. In Canova, she’s had her most formidable challenger ever.


http://floridapolitics.com/archives/219817-poll-debbie-wasserman-schultz-leads-tim-canova-10-points-cd-23-race

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Poll: Debbie Wasserman Schultz leads Tim Canova by 10 points in CD 23 race (Original Post) NCTraveler Aug 2016 OP
Sorry to hear that. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #1
He opposes the Iran deal. She supports payday lenders. Tell me which is the "lesser evil"? Recursion Aug 2016 #4
Yes, he's hardly an ideal choice either. It's not my district, Hortensis Aug 2016 #13
Not sure what there is to be sorry about. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #6
The same can be said about Dems gaining as many seats as possible ... Mika Aug 2016 #8
Her seat is a solid hold for us. It would be an unknown with Canova. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #10
I agree. Native Aug 2016 #17
Yes, she is known to be a politician lacking in honesty and integrity. And the majority Cal33 Aug 2016 #24
Yes, fear of a loss of rights can be strong. Who would have thunk. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #25
Perhaps a majority of her constituents disagree with you mythology Aug 2016 #27
So you can't support her because she doesn't demonize her opponents enough? BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #11
Yeah, that's the reason. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #12
Love your "reasoning" also. Mika Aug 2016 #16
Thank you kindly. That is very nice of you. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #20
Nice try. I didn't say demonize, I said campaign for Dems against GOP opponents of Dems. Mika Aug 2016 #14
You don't seem to know what the word "support" means, sadly. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #18
Tim Canova is the best Democrat in this primary race. senz Aug 2016 #36
The people Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #37
"Simply being left of someone doesn't make them electable or even a good candidate for the job." NurseJackie Aug 2016 #23
Me too. ananda Aug 2016 #39
This tantrum is why we never get anywhere Recursion Aug 2016 #2
I just saw her give a press conference on the Zika crisis Xipe Totec Aug 2016 #5
Yeah; loved it. tavernier Aug 2016 #15
She can be very effective. Native Aug 2016 #19
I support DWS's renomination and I am confident she will win the primary. But I don't think the GOP StevieM Aug 2016 #7
Is she still supporting "republicans she can work with"? That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #30
Is her primary opponent still opposing the key foreign policy deal of this administration? Recursion Aug 2016 #32
...and Secretary of State Clinton wanted more sanctions instead of negotiations. That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #35
Which was one of the many reasons I was an O'Malley voter in the primaries Recursion Aug 2016 #38
I don't live in her district, or state for that matter, but she has much more "evil" That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #42
I think she is a prime example of what's wrong with the democratic party here in Florida. Zipgun Aug 2016 #41
The people of her district are the one's who have the right Loki Aug 2016 #3
Great! She appeals to her constituents and will hold the seat. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #9
Yes she will!! Great news..GTFO Tim "I suck at campaigning" Cannova misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #22
Never was in question... brooklynite Aug 2016 #21
Why are the primaries in Florida so late? MattP Aug 2016 #26
Maybe they're rigged! Walk away Aug 2016 #29
Strongly dislike DWS but Canova doesn't seem much better. HERVEPA Aug 2016 #28
Excellent. nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #31
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #33
I am so happy she's leading Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #34
Yes! murielm99 Aug 2016 #40
Too bad. alarimer Aug 2016 #43
That's too bad. I feel Canova is a better candidate. AllyCat Aug 2016 #44
That's pretty close oberliner Aug 2016 #45
Incumbents almost never lose primaries TSIAS Aug 2016 #46

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. He opposes the Iran deal. She supports payday lenders. Tell me which is the "lesser evil"?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
Aug 2016

Honestly between the two I might call DWS that, based just on those two positions.

This is what I really hate about the "here's the new shiny" mode of politics the US seems to practice now...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Yes, he's hardly an ideal choice either. It's not my district,
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Aug 2016

and I am glad that the voters there are making their wishes felt. I object strongly to all the outside money that flooded into this race in an attempt to replace whatever the will of the constituents might be with the will of outsiders.

Would that more people had respect for the right of the people to choose their leaders that underlies all our democratic processes.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. Not sure what there is to be sorry about.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:18 PM
Aug 2016

We must hold this seat and DWS is looking like the powerhouse of ole. Her opponent hasn't even been able to get solid name recognition. I would hate to be holding the Tim "I can't campaign for shit" Canova card come November. It might sound all touchy feely praising Canova but it is a seat we must hold and Canova has shown little to make anyone think he can do that. Simply being left of someone doesn't make them electable or even a good candidate for the job.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
8. The same can be said about Dems gaining as many seats as possible ...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Aug 2016

... and DWS has refused to campaign against her GOP "colleagues " (her words) in Fla, nor campaign for their Dem opponents for several election cycles.

That is why I can't support her!








 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. Her seat is a solid hold for us. It would be an unknown with Canova.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

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We are going to take this one and hold her seat. That is extremely positive. And Murphy is handily putting away Grayson. Good news as he actually has a shot at Rubio. That would be a gain. Lots to be excited for.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
24. Yes, she is known to be a politician lacking in honesty and integrity. And the majority
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

of voters fear the possibility that Canova might be a different kind of politician -- for a
change?

Can fear of the unknown be that strong in so many people?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
25. Yes, fear of a loss of rights can be strong. Who would have thunk.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:50 PM
Aug 2016

I think her honesty and integrity is in tact. It's not like she is a Grayson or something.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
27. Perhaps a majority of her constituents disagree with you
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:57 PM
Aug 2016

But sure presume they are all just too cowardly because the people she has actually represented have the unmitigated gall to vote for her.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
14. Nice try. I didn't say demonize, I said campaign for Dems against GOP opponents of Dems.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

This has been a long standing issue with her.

You can spin onward and forum slide my comments attempting to put words into my comment that I never made, but, that isn't going to change certain facts, no matter how inconvenient to your view... which seems to support DWSs position of support for her GOP colleagues.




 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
18. You don't seem to know what the word "support" means, sadly.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Aug 2016

Probably a side effect of seeing the world through the simplistic lens of black-and-white?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. "Simply being left of someone doesn't make them electable or even a good candidate for the job."
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

Yes.
That.
Exactly.
Thank you!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. This tantrum is why we never get anywhere
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:14 PM
Aug 2016

Canova was much, much weaker against Kaufman than DWS. There's a reason local Democrats vote for her: she can hold the district. Canova can't.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. I just saw her give a press conference on the Zika crisis
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:17 PM
Aug 2016

She slammed the Republican controlled congress with a toilet lid and then went back to fetch a sledge hammer to finish them off.

It was brutal.

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
15. Yeah; loved it.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

She shed lots of light on the irresponsibility of congress that is exacerbating the spread of Zika. This puts a large number of Floridians in danger to health issues, and will cost South Florida millions/billions before it is over.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
7. I support DWS's renomination and I am confident she will win the primary. But I don't think the GOP
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:20 PM
Aug 2016

can take her district, regardless of whether the nominee is DWS or Tim Canova.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
30. Is she still supporting "republicans she can work with"?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:11 PM
Aug 2016

She did the Democratic Party no favors as chair when you consider how many Senate and House seats we lost. We would be better off with out her.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
32. Is her primary opponent still opposing the key foreign policy deal of this administration?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:13 PM
Aug 2016

Again: I have plenty of complaints about both candidates...

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
35. ...and Secretary of State Clinton wanted more sanctions instead of negotiations.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:27 PM
Aug 2016

I've been very disappointed with the Democratic Party as a whole this election cycle, but it has been an eye opener. Opposing the Iran deal is a strike against Tim Canova, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz has too many strikes against her in my book. Not that it matters since I don't live in her district.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
38. Which was one of the many reasons I was an O'Malley voter in the primaries
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:40 PM
Aug 2016

But, again:

From their stances I see Canova/DWS as a lesser of two evils questions. Why shouldn't I pick the evil with the proven track record?

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
42. I don't live in her district, or state for that matter, but she has much more "evil"
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:50 PM
Aug 2016

Her track record is winning her election, not supporting Democratic candidates or Democratic Party values (at least the ones that are spoken of in speeches).

Zipgun

(182 posts)
41. I think she is a prime example of what's wrong with the democratic party here in Florida.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:48 PM
Aug 2016

While I do subscribe to the idea that just about any democrat is a better choice than every republican candidate, a lot of her positions are hard to take.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Great! She appeals to her constituents and will hold the seat.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

Hillary will need strong and experienced support from people like DWS.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
22. Yes she will!! Great news..GTFO Tim "I suck at campaigning" Cannova
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:24 PM
Aug 2016

He would be a miserable Dem for supporting Pres Clinton.
I doubt that his loyalty lies with unifying our Party..But with DWS, there is no doubt at all. She will stand solid with all Hillary's visions for equality & a big thank you to her District for seeing through the shimmer of the fake shiny object.






brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
21. Never was in question...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:21 PM
Aug 2016

The national/DNC arguments that generated a lot Canova's out of State fundraising never had a lot of local resonance.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
28. Strongly dislike DWS but Canova doesn't seem much better.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

And I have actual money on DWS. (predictit.com)

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
34. I am so happy she's leading
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:22 PM
Aug 2016

She got a bum rap by a lot of folks and it would be sweet justice for her to win

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
40. Yes!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 02:45 PM
Aug 2016

Good for her district, and this is great vindication for those who wanted her head on a platter just for spite.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
43. Too bad.
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:04 PM
Aug 2016

We need to get rid of lousy Democrats. Just because they have a D doesn't make them worth a shit. And she is one of the most worthless.

Just another worthless pol with no integrity.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
46. Incumbents almost never lose primaries
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:15 PM
Aug 2016

I know it's a long shot for Canova, but I applaud his decision to challenge DWS.

Unfortunately, Canova might not be the right candidate for this district. Sanders was about as popular in FL-23 as having dinner after 8:00 PM.

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