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Tim Canova is disappointed with Bernie (Original Post) MattP Aug 2016 OP
Bernie did more for Canova than anybody could bravenak Aug 2016 #1
Joke? :) It is true that Bernie made Canova Hortensis Aug 2016 #12
That is absolutely how I see it. bravenak Aug 2016 #20
Sounds like he did expect those coattails spread under him. Hortensis Aug 2016 #21
Link? What did he say? DanTex Aug 2016 #2
he said on Rachel's show that jcgoldie Aug 2016 #3
Maybe because he's disappeared. He isn't doing what he said he would do - anything to beat Trump. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #4
I think the HRC campaign has asked most surrogates to stand down while Trump implodes aikoaiko Aug 2016 #17
Right now? Barack_America Aug 2016 #5
It came from Canova, not Rachael Maddow. KMOD Aug 2016 #10
Some folks aren't done fighting the primary. They view everything in that context. And they stevenleser Aug 2016 #23
Exactly. KMOD Aug 2016 #27
The Presidential Primary is over. It doesnt make any sense to view things in that context. stevenleser Aug 2016 #22
A not-insignificant chunk of Canova's campaign funds (and name recognition) are thanks to Sanders TwilightZone Aug 2016 #6
He was just pleading for Bernie to return his call. Pitiful really. redstateblues Aug 2016 #7
Well, he probably wanted more from someone who Hortensis Aug 2016 #13
Sounds fishy to me. I just read that Bernie is all in for Hillary and will be actively campaigning snowy owl Aug 2016 #8
It's reported by Politico and The Hill, probably others, Hortensis Aug 2016 #14
Canova never had a chance . if people want to win in congressional races they should look into JI7 Aug 2016 #9
It'd be interesting to know what effect that money Hortensis Aug 2016 #15
That was a rather informative segment on the whole. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #11
Canova is only mentioned because of Sanders. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #16
Who is Tim Canova? Kaleva Aug 2016 #18
Neither succeeded in their quest to unseat the popular-among-her-District, DWS. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #28
So Bernie wasn't as principled as some though, huh? Siding with the so-called Establishment that he Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #19
Actually Canova's the one who's unprincipled. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #24
Sarcasm from me. Canova's political career won't go far. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #25
Oh, you. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #26
This probably had something to do with it... DonViejo Aug 2016 #29
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Bernie did more for Canova than anybody could
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 09:50 PM
Aug 2016

no one would even know his name if not for Bernie. He should be grateful

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Joke? :) It is true that Bernie made Canova
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:15 AM
Aug 2016

a national figure to his supporters, and it's also true that it was Canova's job to get the locals who actually vote to support him.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
20. That is absolutely how I see it.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

It is Canova's job to get folks to want to vote for him. I wonder if he thought that was Bernie's job.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Sounds like he did expect those coattails spread under him.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:10 PM
Aug 2016

Communication problem, perhaps. Too bad.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
3. he said on Rachel's show that
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:06 PM
Aug 2016

Bernie don't return his calls. It was a weird focus on Maddow's show about Bernie's new Revolution falling apart because the staffers hate Weaver. I don't know why she's after Bernie right now.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
4. Maybe because he's disappeared. He isn't doing what he said he would do - anything to beat Trump.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:09 PM
Aug 2016

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
17. I think the HRC campaign has asked most surrogates to stand down while Trump implodes
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 03:30 PM
Aug 2016

Everyone except for Bill and Tim seem to have disappeared and even Bill is giving vanilla speeches.

Makes sense. This way HRC can stand out.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
5. Right now?
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
Aug 2016

This has been a 6 month smear of the man. Seems personal, honestly.

I mean, really, with Trump's campaign imploding, she wants to stoke Democratic internal strife?

Extremely telling.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. Some folks aren't done fighting the primary. They view everything in that context. And they
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:26 PM
Aug 2016

had this idea that Rachel was against Sanders. She irritated me enough with her coverage of things that were negatives for Hillary that I think she was probably being fair to both sides. But to some folks, if a host didn't worship their candidate, they were against them. That's what we are seeing here.

This has nothing to do with the primary and it certainly doesnt involve a non-existent thing Maddow has against Sanders.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
27. Exactly.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:59 PM
Aug 2016

Everything seems to be a conspiracy theory to some.

It would be nice if people could move on.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. The Presidential Primary is over. It doesnt make any sense to view things in that context.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:23 PM
Aug 2016

If Canova feels that way, its news, particularly since Bernie is the one who put him on the map.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
6. A not-insignificant chunk of Canova's campaign funds (and name recognition) are thanks to Sanders
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:59 PM
Aug 2016

so that's a curious thing to say.

If he was expecting Bernie to become directly involved in his campaign, I think his expectations were a bit unrealistic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Well, he probably wanted more from someone who
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:18 AM
Aug 2016
reportedly told him he would support him.

Bernie's a national figure with real power -- witness his friends right here on this thread. If he had called for people to donate to Canova and gone down there and appeared with him, perhaps it would have made a real difference. Canova's running against DWS, after all, and many Bernie supporters came to hate her.

And even if Canova lost this time, a better showing than losing by double digits would have set him up for another run in 2018.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
8. Sounds fishy to me. I just read that Bernie is all in for Hillary and will be actively campaigning
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:30 PM
Aug 2016

for her in the coming months. I sent Canova money several times. Hope I don't regret it. But i do not trust Maddow.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. It's reported by Politico and The Hill, probably others,
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

but Canova's the one claiming that he got no further help from Bernie after he promised it. The others are just reporting that.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
9. Canova never had a chance . if people want to win in congressional races they should look into
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:14 AM
Aug 2016

what people who actually live and therefore vote in those district are concerned about and vote on .

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. It'd be interesting to know what effect that money
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:23 AM
Aug 2016

pouring in from outside to influence what was supposed to be a local election had. Do few actually know about it, or did it backfire perhaps?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Canova is only mentioned because of Sanders.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 11:23 AM
Aug 2016

Sanders played a large role in filling his coffers. Hey Tim, you have a role to play yourself. This is your campaign and Sanders already stood up to bat for you. Take responsibility.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
28. Neither succeeded in their quest to unseat the popular-among-her-District, DWS.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 08:01 PM
Aug 2016

Their Cannova campaign was soley for revenge of the person that gave Sanders a Party home to run within.
Appears they both cried when they failed to unseat their targets.
Neither were known until someone gave them a place.

I don't care at all what happens to either of them.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
19. So Bernie wasn't as principled as some though, huh? Siding with the so-called Establishment that he
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 04:32 PM
Aug 2016

railed against.

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