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msongs

(67,443 posts) Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:29 AM Nov 2012

obama voters kill senate pickup chance in Nevada....

obama got about 529,000 votes in NV but dem senate candidate Berkley got only 444.000 votes. That is a surplus of 85000 votes not given to Berkley . had they done so we would have picked up another seat....unless I am missing something about that.

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obama voters kill senate pickup chance in Nevada.... (Original Post) msongs Nov 2012 OP

Crossroads Ads joesdaughter Nov 2012 #1

Obscene ads brush Nov 2012 #4

Maybe this is evidence of ballot malfunctions. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #2

when I worked in Nevada in 2008, they had computer screens w/paper printout CreekDog Nov 2012 #9

So how does the voter get to see that their whole selection went through? Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #12

That happened in my county in North Carolina, too. loudsue Nov 2012 #3

The ads against Berkley here were vicious. It was really a shame. Plus they said she did SweetieD Nov 2012 #5

In Minnesota, negative campaigning often backfires. Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #13

Jon Ralston wrote a good story spelling out what happened ffr Nov 2012 #6

The GOTV effort was absolutely awe inspiring. These people didn't know the work quit. ffr Nov 2012 #7

something kind of sad about this really nt msongs Nov 2012 #8

you make it sound like it was a given CreekDog Nov 2012 #10

honoring what obama stands for then undermining his ability to achieve. nt msongs Nov 2012 #11

There have always been split ticket voters and we've usually come out on the better end of it. Midwestern Democrat Nov 2012 #14

joesdaughter

(243 posts)

1. Crossroads Ads

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 AM

Nov 2012

were vicious and non-stop.

brush

(53,871 posts)

4. Obscene ads

Reply to joesdaughter (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:43 AM

Nov 2012

You're right they were 24/7 and with a level of vicious I've never seen showing the worst photos of Shelly Berkley they could find.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)

2. Maybe this is evidence of ballot malfunctions.

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:36 AM

Nov 2012

What kind of voting set up is there in Berkley's area?

Maybe there should be a challenge about those missing votes.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)

9. when I worked in Nevada in 2008, they had computer screens w/paper printout

Reply to Tigress DEM (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:14 AM

Nov 2012

at first glance, i doubt your idea.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)

12. So how does the voter get to see that their whole selection went through?

Reply to CreekDog (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:16 AM

Nov 2012

Does the print out itself actually spit out to the voter?

I say this because there were a lot of reports that touch screens were malfunctioning in regards to the "party line" function in the opposite way. (I think that was Florida and maybe a few others.) The President would be selected and then as people moved on to select others down ticket the Presidential selection would switch from Obama to Romney.

All I'm saying is that is a lot of votes and if it is going to be challenged at all it needs to be done soon, but voters have the right to know.

Some people might have just come out to vote for Prez. Some might have believed negative ads, but it's a big number.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)

3. That happened in my county in North Carolina, too.

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:41 AM

Nov 2012

If all of the straight dem ticket voters had also voted for Obama, Obama would have taken the state. I'm convinced.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)

5. The ads against Berkley here were vicious. It was really a shame. Plus they said she did

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:48 AM

Nov 2012

not really campaign much in Washoe County. I guess she relied to heavily on Clark to carry her. I voted for her.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)

13. In Minnesota, negative campaigning often backfires.

Reply to SweetieD (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:22 AM

Nov 2012

Amy Kloubachar was noted for running a very positive campaign and defeated her opponent by a huge margin.

ffr

(22,671 posts)

6. Jon Ralston wrote a good story spelling out what happened

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:59 AM

Nov 2012

11/07/12 - Too many Democratic deserters cost Berkley a U.S. Senate seat - Jon Ralston Reports

While Obama was gathering leads in 'all important' Clark County of 56 - 42 over Romney,

Berkley only managed a lead of 50 - 41 over Heller. <NV SoS Clark County>

Not enough to overcome the remainder of the state. And she lost overall by 12,000, while Obama won by over 66,000.

ffr

(22,671 posts)

7. The GOTV effort was absolutely awe inspiring. These people didn't know the work quit.

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:06 AM

Nov 2012

Use the DU Google search to find GOTV %statename%. I did a whole series of early vote tallies before the election.

OFA Nevada was a machine. No ifs ands or buts about it.