2016 Postmortem
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By Editorial Board August 25 at 7:31 PM
GREEN PARTY presidential nominee Jill Stein argues that Americans should not vote for the lesser of two evils. Instead of voting out of fear, they should vote for the most deserving candidate. Unfortunately for Ms. Stein, even if you accepted the logic, it would not lead this year to a vote for her.
Ms. Stein sat down with our editorial board Thursday, as Republican Donald Trump and Libertarian Gary Johnson have done previously. She stressed some important issues, especially climate change. As an activist in her home state of Massachusetts, she worked to shut down polluting, coal-fired power plants, and she says she would bring that activists sensibility to the Oval Office. But Ms. Steins policy ideas are poorly formed and wildly impractical. Her activist approach, she said, involves building broad coalitions, but she criticized Hillary Clinton for reaching out to Republicans. She proposes to end all use of coal, oil, gasoline and nuclear power by 2030, guaranteeing a federal job to anyone who wants one along the way, and says she can accomplish this revolution for $500 billion less than the cost of President Obamas 2009 stimulus. Even this trifle would be recouped in health savings, she said, as her Green New Deal reduced the incidence of asthma, diabetes and other illnesses.
There would no doubt be health benefits. But Ms. Stein is nevertheless spinning up a fairy tale an appealing fairy tale to some, but still a fairy tale. To support the feasibility of her plan, Ms. Stein cited experts whose models in fact envision an energy transition taking decades longer than she posits. To support her health prognostication, she improbably cited Cubas experience losing access to Russian oil after the fall of the Soviet Union, after which, she pointed out, Cubans became healthier. In fact, they became healthier because they could no longer afford to smoke or drink alcohol and because so many involuntarily lost weight. Cubans survived drinking sugared water, and eating anything they could get their hands on, including domestic pets and the animals in the Havana Zoo, Richard Schiffman recounted in the Atlantic. They became virtual vegans overnight.
On foreign policy, Ms. Stein expressed general accord with her running mate, Ajamu Baraka, who has decried the unimaginable atrocities fomented by a demented and dying U.S. empire .?.?. and the gangster states of NATO, though she said she might choose different language. Ms. Stein would take a good hard look at NATO and radically reduce U.S. military activity, preferring diplomacy to respond, for example, to Russian President Vladimir Putin. But when we asked what would make her diplomacy more successful than the Minsk process that has failed to end the fighting in Ukraine, there was not much of a response.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/jill-steins-fairy-tale-candidacy/2016/08/25/3bf8ba1a-6b08-11e6-99bf-f0cf3a6449a6_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.27c4b9137904
Read the transcript of Jill Steins interview with The Post editorial board
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Not address I am interested.
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)I hope she gets .005%
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and that is all that has kept her in the news...
I wouldn't be quite so harsh on her if she at least pretended she was running against Donnie as well...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Lol. Maybe she and PETA's murderous Ingrid Newkirk could team up on a plan to rid the nation of feral cats.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Now are the first to smear another progressive female politician.
I could almost forgive the vitriol if the Greens were in any way threatening to win or to spoil Democrat chances. But they are not and FFS her platform is made up of positive progressive initiatives. The only difference is she believes (perhaps naively) that these more bolder initiatives could be achieved sooner rather than later. But you'd rather the Greens didn't exist at all I gather.
God bless the Green party. The Democrats need to always be reminded that there is a segment like the 46% that backed Bernie, that her policies resonate with and that it would be folly not to be aware and more inclusive with that segment.
Same happened with Nader. Criticize his timing, his passion, his work (if possible), but the personal attacks and insults I don't get. He was the first to stand up to corporate privilege and abuse of power.
We need more voices like this, not less.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and wishful thinking to actually making the world a better place. They emerge from hibernation every 4 years to flout their moral superiority before going back to their dens
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Sanders got 35% of the Democratic vote, not 46%.
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
Adding independents, Republicans, and unaffiliated, Sanders won 43% of the vote. Still not 46%.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html
As for Stein, she's trying to act the spoiler, your claims to the contrary notwithstanding. It couldn't be more obvious.
And as long as she continues to make idiotic statements like stating that Clinton's first act in office might be to start a nuclear war with Russia, I'll continue to mock her, thanks. Pointing out her idiocy is not sexist. It's reality.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Policies are cogent, reality-based road-maps designed to affect achievable societal change. Stein has nothing of the kind.
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)They only show up every four years during the presidential election and then piss off until the next one.
Here's a minor political party that's actually worth something: http://workingfamilies.org/