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democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:42 PM Aug 2016

Why is Hillary asking for $1 donations?

I have gotten multiple e-mails from her over the past few weeks asking for a $1 donation. What is the deal with that? It costs probably almost that much to process a $1 donation, especially when you consider the recordkeeping and FEC reporting requirements. Is she doing this to lower her average contribution amount so she can talk about a small average contribution like Bernie? Is she trying to boost the number of donors more than the amount she raises? I like that she is pursuing small contributions but asking for $1 seems weird. I have never been asked for that little by a campaign before.

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Why is Hillary asking for $1 donations? (Original Post) democrattotheend Aug 2016 OP
I don't know... radical noodle Aug 2016 #1
Odd democrattotheend Aug 2016 #4
A volunteer for voter protection is more important than the money radical noodle Aug 2016 #8
All those "drops in the bucket" add up for Hill, just as they did with Bernie. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #13
It's a marketing ploy, as you might expect. You get on the site (they capture that) and are prompted Hekate Aug 2016 #2
That's a good point democrattotheend Aug 2016 #7
I don't know that any "commercial" sharing goes on, but in 2008 and 2012 I signed petitions.... Hekate Aug 2016 #19
I don't feel embarrassed for writing in a smaller amount. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #22
I haven't received any $1 requests. I think the smallest request has been $25.00. Arkansas Granny Aug 2016 #3
foot-in-the-door technique aikoaiko Aug 2016 #5
If they get a response for even $1 The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #6
this here. Adrahil Aug 2016 #9
I'll admit, I initially thought of the cynical explanation democrattotheend Aug 2016 #10
Why not both!? Adrahil Aug 2016 #11
Agreed democrattotheend Aug 2016 #12
You can see from his FEC letters that Bernie had many donors who gave multiple small donations -- pnwmom Aug 2016 #16
Yeah, I always thought the $27 figure was a bit misleading democrattotheend Aug 2016 #17
great point NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #18
Can you copy and paste the email so we can see it? nt. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #14
Will do when I get home democrattotheend Aug 2016 #20
By asking for $1, she's getting a list of supporters who are willing to give SOMETHING. pnwmom Aug 2016 #15
Don't know, don't care bigwillq Aug 2016 #21
I'm a monthly donor, a dollar a day. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #23
Gotcha democrattotheend Aug 2016 #24

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
1. I don't know...
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:47 PM
Aug 2016

She always asks for way more than that from me, but maybe that's because I've been contributing on and off as I could.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
4. Odd
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:56 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe it is because I have not yet donated to her this cycle (I did make a small donation to her debt relief effort in December 2008).

I am on the fence about whether to give to Hillary, because I don't have a lot to give now and it feels like the amount I could give her would be a drop in the bucket for her, and the fact that she is asking for $1 makes me feel like she wants the donation more for show than because she actually needs my money. If I had more to give I would be happy to give to her, but I feel like the $20-25 per month that I can give would be better used down-ballot where the total cost of the race is less expensive.

I did sign up to volunteer for Hillary as a voter protection lawyer though, and cut my vacation last week short so I could save 2 vacation days to do that.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
8. A volunteer for voter protection is more important than the money
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:59 PM
Aug 2016

It's great you can do that. Thanks for signing up!

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
13. All those "drops in the bucket" add up for Hill, just as they did with Bernie.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:41 PM
Aug 2016

It all counts. It all matters.

Hope you'll think about giving a little dinero, but a hale and hearty THANK YOU for volunteering for voter protection! That's extremely awesome!

Hekate

(90,840 posts)
2. It's a marketing ploy, as you might expect. You get on the site (they capture that) and are prompted
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:49 PM
Aug 2016

... to choose from an array of donation sums that are, not surprisingly, greater than $1. You get pitched the message of the day as well. If all you can afford is $1 or $5 you don't feel embarrassed and you get to participate. It's all good.

I doubt "processing" costs them much.

After January, though, I recommend unsubscribing to 99% of the appeals that come in.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
7. That's a good point
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

I hadn't thought of it that way. I kind of took it as she wants the donations mostly for show, to obfuscate the percentage she is getting from large contributors. But your explanation also makes sense. I do find it really annoying when campaigns set the minimum suggested donation at more than I can afford and I feel embarrassed writing in a smaller amount, so from that perspective I like it. Maybe I will give her $5 or $10 when I get home today.

It's funny you mention the appeals after January. One of the reasons I have hesitated to donate is because of how they share the information with everyone and even sell it to commercial marketers. I am going to call and ask if there is a way to give without agreeing to that. Although I ended up getting on her list anyway when I signed up for voter protection, so it may not matter.

Hekate

(90,840 posts)
19. I don't know that any "commercial" sharing goes on, but in 2008 and 2012 I signed petitions....
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 03:28 PM
Aug 2016

...for any number of worthy causes and lived to regret it. And then there were the candidate sites that were to directly benefit the candidate's causes. All good stuff. But by the time I called a halt last year I was getting 50 emails a day I had not asked for!

So I unsubscribed to everything but 2 or 3 of them. I still want to know what Obama thinks is important, for instance. I had to keep unsubscribing for awhile to make sure they got the message, but in the end my inbox felt much better.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
22. I don't feel embarrassed for writing in a smaller amount.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:24 AM
Aug 2016

Something is better than nothing. Nothing to be ashamed of. I think it is ingenious, actually. I am guessing that a WHOLE LOT more people would donate $5 or $10 than waiting for someone to donate $50 or $100.


The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,873 posts)
6. If they get a response for even $1
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

they know they have a "live" email address and someone who is at least interested in contributing. The next time they'll ask for more.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. this here.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:02 PM
Aug 2016

They can report every donor as an individual donor, it brings the average donation per donor down, and it gives them your contact info.

On the less cynical side, it sends the message that every little bit counts and that they care about every donation.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
10. I'll admit, I initially thought of the cynical explanation
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:29 PM
Aug 2016

Mainly because I used to work for a political fundraising and advocacy organization so I know a lot of the tricks.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. Why not both!?
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:31 PM
Aug 2016

Politics is a very cynical business. Or, as I prefer, "realistic." I suspect that it is both. And why not? Winning matters, right?

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
12. Agreed
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

I do like that she is asking for small amounts so that people who want to give less than $25 don't feel embarrassed about it. I could even understand asking for $5. But asking for $1 seems like it has some other purpose besides funding her campaign.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
16. You can see from his FEC letters that Bernie had many donors who gave multiple small donations --
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:47 PM
Aug 2016

even on the same day. It helped keep his average down, too.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
17. Yeah, I always thought the $27 figure was a bit misleading
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:49 PM
Aug 2016

But Bernie did not actively seek out token contributions just to lower the average. I would bet that even if you looked at the total someone gave throughout the cycle, the average for Bernie would be under $100.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
18. great point
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

I'd also add that if they get X number of $1 dollar donors, they can claim X thousands of people donated to the campaign.

say Clinton raised $60 million for August from 1 million donors, but then another 1 million people give $1 each - you now have 2 million people giving $51 million, for an average of $25.5 per donation. A $25 donation is realistic for a lot more people than $60 or $100.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
15. By asking for $1, she's getting a list of supporters who are willing to give SOMETHING.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 02:46 PM
Aug 2016

But most will probably give at least $5 or 10. And next time even more.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
21. Don't know, don't care
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:07 PM
Aug 2016

Besides the little bit to reply to this thread.

She can ask for whatever she wants, I am cool with that.

I am also cool with folks who choose to give or not. It's their money.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
23. I'm a monthly donor, a dollar a day.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:34 AM
Aug 2016

Most of the fundraising solicitations I get are using the same template--$1 to start.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
24. Gotcha
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:39 PM
Aug 2016

I got an e-mail tonight from President Obama asking me to give Hillary $1, but when I clicked the minimum amount you could select was $5 (although you could obviously write in $1). I ended up deciding to give a small donation (but more than $1) for now. I will probably give more later in the cycle, but I also want to donate to a couple down-ballot races and to Baton Rouge relief.

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