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Best article I have read so far about bigot Trump speech.
Column: The Trump pivot is dead, in its place was a hate speech
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-immigration-speech-arizona-huppke-20160831-column.html
Aug. 31, 2016. (C-SPAN)
Rex Huppke
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But then Trump flew back to the states for a Wednesday night speech and all hell broke loose. Before a raucous crowd in Arizona, Trump returned to his natural center: angry, snarling, aggrieved and terrifying.
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He again approvingly referenced President Dwight D. Eisenhowers deportation program Operation Wetback, a cruel and deadly disaster from the 1950s, suggesting that Trumps version of that program would be even tougher.
The crowd cheered.
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Saying that some think the word deport is not politically correct, Trump mocked: You can call it whatever the hell you want, theyre gone.
Loud. Spewing insults and absurd claims. Red-faced and nationalistic. It was Trump as we know him to be.
He took the pivot some were predicting and ripped it to shreds, delivering a speech lavishly praised by white supremacists like David Duke and by wretched far-right opportunists like Ann Coulter.
It was a hate speech.........................
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That wasnt a speech on immigration policy, as the campaign had promised. That was Donald Trump thumbing his nose at the establishment and at all the pundits who suggested he was softening his stance on immigration.
That was an angry man catering to a base t..............................
Trumps swoop from supposed statesman in Mexico to manic hate-monger in Arizona was jarring. Truly.
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rhuppke@chicagotribune.com
Copyright © 2016, Chicago Tribune
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...to alt-right.
Optics.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)"But theres no reason to parse words when it comes to that bilious speech. It was hate-filled and hateful. You could see the hands of Steve Bannon, who runs the far-right news site Breitbart and is now CEO of Trumps campaign, all over it, as if Trump was barfing out the comments section under one of the sites white nationalist screeds."
Next up will be more hate speech against Muslims, count on it.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Then more crooked Hillary crap
napkinz
(17,199 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)riversedge
(70,239 posts)book--actually only excepts.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)here is a man standing next to another man in the picture, one is a psychopath, and the other one wants to be or already is narcissistic and whatever else you want to call him , but they are both dangerous, right up there with Bannon and his crowd.
This Lind character sat on a "Task Force" in the pentagon, and I, you and everyone else was giving him taxpayer dollars to exactly what, spread paranoia, and try to implement some 10th crusade, and then he has the means to write an article in the Marine paper to further the paranoia.
"Well before the first Clinton presidency, Lind served on the Pentagon task force that came up with the term Fourth Generation Warfare' (4GW) to describe the phenomenon we would later come to know as insurgency' in Iraq and Afghanistan. Over the years, however, his doctrine has focused on psychological operations, information warfare, and other nonlethal means as primary weapons of influence and power. "Television news may become a more powerful operational weapon than armored divisions," he wrote in the seminal 1989 Marine Corps Gazette article on 4GW.
Were is the MSM on this issue------------no where, nada, zilch. There trying to figure out how bird brain is trying to use the media to his advantage for another 48 hour cycle
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)11.5 million illegal aliens x (approx) 15,000 per deportation hearing = $165 billion. P
(not counting the cost to transport. I have no idea how to compute that cost)
Then there's the wall. That's 2,000 mi. With freeway costs approaching $1,000,000 / mi, if you could build the wall for just that cost (and you couldn't). That's another couple of billion.
Then there is the bit about buying the last and laying the infrastructure to actually build the wall. Remember, the border is just an imaginary line and somebody owns the land on either side of that imaginary line. Next you have to man the wall. So,if you put guard towers 1000' apart along the wall, that's 5 towers/mi x 2,000 that's 10,000 guard towers, with, ummm, 2 guards each x 3 shifts = 60,000 border patrol agents (and a few to spare to cover sickness, vacation, etc.) Border patrol agents start at around $50K/yr, so 60,000 agents x $50K/yr (ignoring other employer related costs) is $3 billion a year.
Oh, and don't forget the other guys Trump says he is going to hire to go looking for illegals. And what is Trump going to do when he wants to build something and the Mob guys he hires to get the job done can't find any illegals to work for non-union rates? And farmers throughout California, the wheat belt, etc have to raise wages significantly to find workers to harvest their crops. How you going to feel when your food doubles in price?
So, with the big tax cuts Trump is promising, where the hell is the money coming from? And for what? I'd much rather see the gov't cracking down on bogus H1-B visas and forcing corporations to employ Americans rather then crying for more H1-B visas to get foreign workers to come to the US and work for less - legally. You don't hear Trump saying anything about that either.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Because really, that won't happen. If he gets in and pushes this as he intends, it won't involve any form of due process. Just people they believe, according to lists, that are undocumented. Or any other array of "sins" of theirs.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)he won't be able to do that. I know that he doesn't have a clue how our government works, but Congress and SCOTUS aren't going to go quietly into that good night. Remember, it was Republicans in Congress (Barry Goldwater for one) pushed Nixon out of office telling him that he didn't have enough support to avoid impeachment and removal.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)mopinko
(70,113 posts)thought it might be the odd lefty op-ed, but no.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)riversedge
(70,239 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Just change the object of the white rage spittle spewing from Trump's sewer mouth from Mexicans to Jews.