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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:14 PM Sep 2016

Salon: Years of smears have created a fictional version of Clinton.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/06/press-lies-and-hillarys-campaign-years-of-smears-have-created-a-fictional-version-of-clinton-theyre-also-a-disservice-to-voters/

That tweet from Chris Cilizza of The Washington Post’s The Fix blog is cleverly framed to be about the voters’ view of this campaign. Both candidates do have high unfavorable ratings among the public (as does the Congress and pretty much every other institution, including the press.) That jaded comment by a member of the media, however, illustrates something important. Some members of the press are not just commenting on a reality; they are pushing the theme of two equally unpalatable candidates and it just isn’t true.

The main problem for Clinton is that people think she is a congenital liar. When asked what it is she lied about, most people can’t point to anything specific; they just know she’s dishonest and corrupt. The fact that she’s been dogged by political enemies and investigated by special prosecutors, the media and Congress with unlimited budgets and every possible means of getting to the truth and has been exonerated doesn’t seem to register. Indeed, the fact-checkers all find her to be more honest than virtually anyone in politics while Donald Trump, by contrast, lies more than he tells the truth.

To understand how this came to be, go back to a column from 1996 in The New York Times by vicious right-wing columnist William Safire who first dubbed her a “congenital liar.” All the crimes that he accused her of committing and lies he insisted that she had told later proved him to be the liar (or badly misinformed), but it didn’t matter. For many reasons, not the least of which was simple sexism, it was set in stone that this feminist, lawyer first lady was devious, calculating and power mad — Madame Defarge and Evita rolled into one. The political press has filtered its coverage of her through that lens ever since.

As Amanda Marcotte has documented, the current “lock her up!” fever, that burning desire to see her her humiliated and imprisoned (or in some cases executed for treason) goes back to the 1990s as well. And it’s no less disturbing now than it was then. It’s fed by the press’ insatiable appetite for juicy tidbits doled out piece by piece by right-wing operatives, each story building on itself to create a narrative of crisis and criminality despite there being no evidence of it being true.

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Salon: Years of smears have created a fictional version of Clinton. (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2016 OP
Salon calling the kettle black. onehandle Sep 2016 #1
wonder if it is more that the press thinks - we have to be fair. On one hand Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2016 #4
This Salon writer has always been fair. nt pnwmom Sep 2016 #5
Maybe I should say 'Salon editor calling the kettle black.' onehandle Sep 2016 #6
The attack dogs were all male, as I recall. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #7
Well, there was Paglia... TwilightZone Sep 2016 #16
Salon has been bashing Hillary lewebley3 Sep 2016 #12
Yes, an interesting phenomenon. Something Republicans are so expert Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2016 #2
Good read, pnwmom. brer cat Sep 2016 #3
I agree wholeheartedly. babylonsister Sep 2016 #8
k and r with deepest thanks. niyad Sep 2016 #9
I used to enjoy watching Washington Journal on C-SPAN. It used to be very informative politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #10
yes - and the fact that when KT2000 Sep 2016 #11
No doubt. TwilightZone Sep 2016 #13
"..by vicious right-wing columnist .." The M$M should stop pushing alt-right light sources uponit7771 Sep 2016 #14
Kick to read later PatSeg Sep 2016 #15
Salon: Memo to progressives: Hillary Clinton is lying to you (October 8 2015) oberliner Sep 2016 #17
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. wonder if it is more that the press thinks - we have to be fair. On one hand
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:22 PM
Sep 2016

we have a sleazeball with a hundred or more things bad about him. On the other hand, we have minutia about Hillary. It is almost like Hillary needs to come up with some other fuel to criticize her about because there is only the emails and the foundation.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. Maybe I should say 'Salon editor calling the kettle black.'
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:26 PM
Sep 2016

During the primary, Salon was 99% Clinton attack dog.

Now that the winds have changed...

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
16. Well, there was Paglia...
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 12:40 AM
Sep 2016

they throw her in the anti-Hillary mix once in a while for the page hits.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
2. Yes, an interesting phenomenon. Something Republicans are so expert
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:19 PM
Sep 2016

at. Just keep repeating a meme and eventually it will reach critical mass. Even if there is no there there.

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
8. I agree wholeheartedly.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:50 PM
Sep 2016

I know enough people who cannot stand her to the point of trying to defend trump, when I know they're smarter than that. But they've been brainwashed to despise her. faux, no doubt.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
10. I used to enjoy watching Washington Journal on C-SPAN. It used to be very informative
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:04 PM
Sep 2016

and the show's Hosts all used to be informed and they would correct people who told lies. That is until the RWnuts took over the show. Last weekend, I was watching, (I always record it and play it back at my leisure) and a Repug caller called in and made the claim that the Obama's have destroyed the office of the presidency, and that 'everyone knows that Michelle Obama is a man'. When the host asked where he had heard that from, the caller said that 'everyone knows that'. In a case like that, I don't think the Host owes any deference to a caller who makes such a ignorant claim, but the Host treated the caller as if he was a serious caller which just encourages more of the same.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
11. yes - and the fact that when
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:25 PM
Sep 2016

the investigations turn up nothing - they call her a liar and that is why their witch-hunt failed. The millions upon millions that have been wasted on these "investigations" is then her fault.
What this and the election period in general has shown is that many people are gullible and are followers.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
13. No doubt.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:47 PM
Sep 2016

The stuff people believe about Hillary thanks to the media (including social media) is remarkable in its level of ridiculousness.

One would think most people would know better. Alas, no.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Salon: Memo to progressives: Hillary Clinton is lying to you (October 8 2015)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 12:46 AM
Sep 2016


Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

"Clinton voters overlook money lust, shadowy surrogates, sociopathic policy shifts, horrific overseas record..."

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/21/enough_with_the_hillary_cult_her_admirers_ignore_reality_dream_of_worshipping_a_queen/

Salon maybe part of the problem?
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