2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat???? David Brooks just said Hillary was "ungracious and unpleasant."
I used to respect him as an intelligent conservative, although I didn't agree with him all the time. But I have watched him over the summer reveal himself as an unaware, thorough going sexist!!!
This is just unconscionable!!!!!
Trump was pleasant and gracious??????
Pleasantness and graciousness is appropriate to a commander and chief forum??????
Would appreciate 140 char suggestions for tweets!!!!
elleng
(131,127 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)... E. J. Dionne
elleng
(131,127 posts)and see if it comes up.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Mr Maru
(216 posts)Attacking Bill and Hill is their fall-back, bread n potatoes
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)riversedge
(70,306 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts).. NOT "ungracious and unpleasant."
How can he be so un-self-aware??????
riversedge
(70,306 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)... if we are to move beyond gridlock and become a working democracy again, we need to respect one another. Brooks had been one of my go-to Republicans for that hope. I still think bunches of his thought is worth listening to, but his sexism has become more and more clear over the summer. I thought he'd take a step back... but no. Very, very disappointing.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)His comments on Trump weren't bad:
It's just that he followed those up with some pretty idiotic statements about Clinton.
elleng
(131,127 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)This is the sort of interesting analysis I expect of Brooks. What has it got to do with his persistent sexism? He's displayed it over and over this summer, and for a bit I thought he'd gotten the message and was re-thinking. But, no. Just an unreconstructed white male SEXIST!
elleng
(131,127 posts)nothing more.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Is he really attempting to revive the "limousine liberal" canard? May as well go full on "welfare queen" next.
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Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)So much of being a republican is about fear and now because of The Donald they fear defecting from being a republican. Guys like Brooks don't know how far they can wander off the ranch and still come home.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... in all settings.
JHB
(37,162 posts)...former "Bill Kristol employee".
It tends to answer most questions that arise, right off the bat.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)Partisan hack is no journalist.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Gosh I wish I can find who wrote this, but someone on twitter who I follow, this morning wrote... to paraphrase
( this is a black man writing) Discussing demeanor in a female candidate is similar to calling a black candidate uppity.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)yardwork
(61,711 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)since the forum. It's bullshit IMNSHO. She was businesslike and straightforward, hardly harsh and abrasive.
I keep hearing the usual RW idiots, and some squishy talking heads sharing this meme all week.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)said something about her reacting too negatively to the questions, instead of remaining stonefaced and unaffected by Lauer's inquisitorial manner.
what a crock....she was too emotional? too.....womanlike? is that it?
what a prick
shame on him
the old double standard
do you EVER watch trump's histrionics? has anyone EVER affected a more unpresidential demeanor.....Constantly?
SO pissed about this BS tack the media is currently riding....gotta have something to replace the apparently dormant email ''scandal''
that'll revive as soon as whatever scandal de jour the pub/media complex has thrown against the wall, waiting to unstick
pansypoo53219
(20,997 posts)maybe if she showed spoke cleavage or thigh.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)He has normalized the fucking GOP for far too long.
JustAnotherGen
(31,902 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)say that David Brooks' mind has dissolved to bean mesh.
I would recommend 4-point restraints and excessive sedation. Shoulda been done a long time ago.
LynnTTT
(362 posts)"be sweet" as some Mormons tell girls.
Paladin
(28,273 posts)Nothing he says is worth listening to, any more.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)We really used to like listening to him. Unlike others in this thread we (hubby and I, the Brooks watchers) think that the GOP should be perceived as "normal."* Wrong, usually, but "normal." That's the only way for a democracy to work. Obama's been trying to teach us that for 8 years.
He remained OK, but less to my taste after he wrote his book about character and began to get all mushy.
But this summer he began revealing blatant, old fashioned sexism. I won't call it misogyny, because it's that brand that relegates women to the pedestal. My hubby and I wrote reasoned letters. We counted on feedback from his colleagues to awaken his self-awareness. But it's only gotten worse.
This last bit, posted in my OP rates up there with the worst anywhere on MSM. I think it's grounds for NPR to consider replacing him.
*I guess I should qualify that. GOP before it descended to a pre-Nazi crazy organization that supports Donald Trump.
Paladin
(28,273 posts)The conservative movement has driven itself into an extremist ditch. Their rebuilding process will be interesting to watch, once Trump is off the stage.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)always an ass.
still_one
(92,409 posts)how that has permeated throughout our society.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,997 posts)like taking a woman to bed. + he didn't even have to feed him dinner.
betsuni
(25,630 posts)Hillary was "evasive and crass" "angry to be challenged" "imperious" she had "not a lot of humanity" "not a lot of relatability" and Trump, "if anything, was a little worse." A little worse. Later he went on about how fact-checking doesn't work.
I clicked on a video just now that turned out to be a show I don't watch because it makes me too angry but as the topic wasn't political, thought it would be safe. But no. One guy said oh, this topic isn't a big deal, North Korea has nukes and the planet's burning, we probably won't survive, just relax. Another guy smirked, "Hillary might be president, that's worse than all of those things." Well, fuck you. Fuck all of these assholes.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Hillary needs to smile.