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Pneumonia is treatable. (Original Post) rateyes Sep 2016 OP
Pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease FBaggins Sep 2016 #1
You are so correct! golfguru Sep 2016 #2
I had pneumonia and didn't have any of these other diseases. LisaL Sep 2016 #3
Pneumonia is a generic term. It can indicate an infection or something else still_one Sep 2016 #6
I had it. I recovered and had no issues since. LisaL Sep 2016 #8
Great, if it is bacterial, which I assume it is, and if it was more serious she would be still_one Sep 2016 #11
Mine was actually misdiagnosed at first as a cold LisaL Sep 2016 #12
A lot of folks don't realize that they even have it. You are right. She should take a few days off still_one Sep 2016 #13
Good God BainsBane Sep 2016 #7
Exactly. LisaL Sep 2016 #9
I've never had pneumonia,but I known many others who have had it.... dubyadiprecession Sep 2016 #14
Pneumonia is a potentially life threatening situation. I assume that isn't the case with still_one Sep 2016 #15
Additionally... golfguru Sep 2016 #16
My son didn't have any of those or anything other than the flu NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #21
You are correct golfguru Sep 2016 #29
You are right. Is it caused by an infection or something else. They need to get out in front of still_one Sep 2016 #4
Given a prescription of antibiotics, I presume they thing it's bacterial FBaggins Sep 2016 #10
Random attacks of coughing can be caused by golfguru Sep 2016 #17
I'm aware that this is a prime theory swimming around conservative blogs... FBaggins Sep 2016 #18
This will all clear up as soon as her physician(s) release her medical history. golfguru Sep 2016 #19
She does not have Parkinson's Disease NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #23
Unless you are a qualified Physician, you do not know that golfguru Sep 2016 #24
Dear God...you MUST meet criteria to be diagnosed NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #31
It often isn't noticeable in the early stages FBaggins Sep 2016 #39
My husband has diagnosed Parkinson's HockeyMom Sep 2016 #40
Pneumonia is an infection of the lung/s NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #22
Since she is home it appears that they have a handle on it. Sometimes even with viral they still_one Sep 2016 #26
It's an infection caused by a virus or bacteria most of the time NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #20
Curious, does he get the flu and Pneumonia vaccination? still_one Sep 2016 #27
Not sure if he does now. He's almost 30. NoGoodNamesLeft Sep 2016 #33
There is no guarantee even with them, but they improve the odds of not getting it. Anyway still_one Sep 2016 #34
'Pneumonia is an inflammatory condition of the lung affecting primarily the microscopic air sacs elleng Sep 2016 #28
Excellent and best post in this thread! golfguru Sep 2016 #30
Thanks, golfguru, elleng Sep 2016 #32
Seriously, walking only 1 mile a day is all one needs golfguru Sep 2016 #35
You're right, and I SHOULD do it. elleng Sep 2016 #36
Blather? FBaggins Sep 2016 #38
Or narcissism and sociopathy. BainsBane Sep 2016 #5
TY Dr Bainsbane! For that diagnosis. golfguru Sep 2016 #25
Hillary will get over her pneumonia. Trump will never get over being an idiot. nt SunSeeker Sep 2016 #37
Used to be called Walking Pneumonia HockeyMom Sep 2016 #41

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
1. Pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:02 PM
Sep 2016

Without knowing what caused it, we don't actually know that it's treatable.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
2. You are so correct!
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
Sep 2016

Pneumonia attacks those already weakened by tertiary health factors, such as weakened immune system, old age, poor nutrition, HIV positive, Parkinson’s disease, lung tumors, Huntington’s disease, Muscular Dystrophy, etc.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. I had pneumonia and didn't have any of these other diseases.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:13 PM
Sep 2016

So what do you know? It doesn't have to be causes by some horrible disease.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
6. Pneumonia is a generic term. It can indicate an infection or something else
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:18 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:48 AM - Edit history (1)

If it is an infection it could be viral or bacterial. Either form can be sever or not. If she is home, then they must have things will in hand

still_one

(92,217 posts)
11. Great, if it is bacterial, which I assume it is, and if it was more serious she would be
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:32 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)

she would be hospitalized, so there should be no issue

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Mine was actually misdiagnosed at first as a cold
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:35 PM
Sep 2016

So I wasn't getting any better. Then I got x-rays and antibiotics took care of it in no time.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
13. A lot of folks don't realize that they even have it. You are right. She should take a few days off
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

I would think

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:19 PM
Sep 2016

I am one of those people who had pneumonia and it wasn't caused by some horrible disease. I can't believe people here are spreading these ridiculous ideas around.

dubyadiprecession

(5,714 posts)
14. I've never had pneumonia,but I known many others who have had it....
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sep 2016

and none of them had diseases that caused its occurrence. You can even say, it's curable.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
15. Pneumonia is a potentially life threatening situation. I assume that isn't the case with
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary's situation, but 50,000 people die from pneumonia a year. If caught and treated in time there is usually no problem, and it is treated quite effectly with anti-viral meds and antibiotics. The best prevention is through both flu and pneumonia vaccination.

I have no doubt that Hillary let herself get worn down, and became vulnerable. I also have no doubt that she will recover nicely and have no issues from this


 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
16. Additionally...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 PM
Sep 2016

People with one or more of conditions listed are much more prone to get pneumonia.
These people can contract pneumonia without coming in contact with the germs from other person.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
21. My son didn't have any of those or anything other than the flu
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:03 PM
Sep 2016

When he got pneumonia every winter and still does. Pneumonia does NOT attack people with other diseases. People with those diseases are at a higher risk IF they get pneumonia.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
29. You are correct
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:03 AM
Sep 2016

My daughter had pneumonia at age 19. She had none of those diseases either.
But the point is if one has those ailments, then chance of acquiring Pneumonia
are much higher.

Anyone can catch pneumonia with exposure to pneumococcus bacteria or get
viral pneumonia, and if their resistance is low due to stress, not enough sleep
or poor diet.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
4. You are right. Is it caused by an infection or something else. They need to get out in front of
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:14 PM
Sep 2016

this, release exactly the issue and the treatment plan

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
10. Given a prescription of antibiotics, I presume they thing it's bacterial
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:26 PM
Sep 2016

I'm not sure how that connects to an allergic cough... but that's why they have doctors.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
17. Random attacks of coughing can be caused by
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:23 PM
Sep 2016

Parkinson's disease in which patient suddenly loses muscle control.
Swallowing requires many muscle groups to act in coordination.
Parkinson's patients can randomly cause malfunction of such muscles,
causing saliva to go down into the lungs. That will cause
coughing fits. Also saliva going into lungs can cause pneumonia due to
fluid accumulation..

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
18. I'm aware that this is a prime theory swimming around conservative blogs...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:29 PM
Sep 2016

...that this is very possibly aspiration pneumonia.

I have to admit that there's nothing in the doctor's statement that would contradict that... but I still think that it's premature at worst - and RW pipe dreams at best.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
23. She does not have Parkinson's Disease
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:11 PM
Sep 2016

If she had that it would be very obvious. You need to have 3 out of 4 specific features to be diagnosed, which she does not have.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
24. Unless you are a qualified Physician, you do not know that
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:47 AM
Sep 2016

and I do not know that.

All I know she has had random coughing fits, loss of muscle control in legs today and now her doc says she has pneumonia. These are symptoms of Parkinson's. That much I know.
But I can not and you can not diagnose Parkinson's just based on symptoms.
Only her physician can diagnose that.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
31. Dear God...you MUST meet criteria to be diagnosed
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
Sep 2016

To be diagnosed you MUST have Bradykinesia. If you don't have Bradykinesia you CANNOT have Parkinson's Disease...period. It's a requirement.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
39. It often isn't noticeable in the early stages
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:33 AM
Sep 2016

I'm not saying that she has it. I'm saying that we aren't in a position to say that she obviously doesn't.

The video scared me. I've never seen dehydration do that, but that's no different from others claiming that they've had pneumonia and it's no big deal.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
40. My husband has diagnosed Parkinson's
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:09 AM
Sep 2016

He does not cough or have slurred speech. His hands and feet shake. His doctor says he is in the early stages and takes medication. Exposure to Agent Orange from Nam.

Michael J. Fox has had Parkinson's for quite some time now. Hillary's condition doesn't look either.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
26. Since she is home it appears that they have a handle on it. Sometimes even with viral they
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:52 AM
Sep 2016

will give antibiotics to prevent secondary infection, but regardless, everything is under control

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
20. It's an infection caused by a virus or bacteria most of the time
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:00 PM
Sep 2016

My eldest son used to get it every flu season and had to get IV fluids. He did not have any health issues at all. The change of seasons just kicked his butt. When you are older it can be more serious...but it's still an infection.



 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
33. Not sure if he does now. He's almost 30.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:12 AM
Sep 2016

He didn't when he was little because they were not as readily available.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
34. There is no guarantee even with them, but they improve the odds of not getting it. Anyway
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:17 AM
Sep 2016

I was just curious. Thanks

elleng

(130,964 posts)
28. 'Pneumonia is an inflammatory condition of the lung affecting primarily the microscopic air sacs
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:02 AM
Sep 2016

known as alveoli.[2][3] Typical signs and symptoms include a varying severity and combination of productive or dry cough, chest pain, fever, and trouble breathing, depending on the underlying cause.[4]

Pneumonia is usually caused by infection with viruses or bacteria and less commonly by other microorganisms, certain medications and conditions such as autoimmune diseases.[2][5] Risk factors include other lung diseases such as cystic fibrosis, COPD, and asthma, diabetes, heart failure, a history of smoking, a poor ability to cough such as following a stroke, or a weak immune system.[6] Diagnosis is often based on the symptoms and physical examination. Chest X-ray, blood tests, and culture of the sputum may help confirm the diagnosis.[7] The disease may be classified by where it was acquired with community, hospital, or health care associated pneumonia.[8]'>>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
30. Excellent and best post in this thread!
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:08 AM
Sep 2016

I am 76 Y.O and never had pneumonia. May be my daily 2 mile walks keep
my lungs in good shape. I began the walking routine to fight border line Diabetes 2.
And it is working!!!!

elleng

(130,964 posts)
32. Thanks, golfguru,
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:11 AM
Sep 2016

I needed that. Wanted to cut through some of the blather, and wiki did it for me.

I'm a few years younger than you, have never had pneumonia either, and SHOULD follow your exercise routine.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
35. Seriously, walking only 1 mile a day is all one needs
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:11 AM
Sep 2016

If weather is bad (too hot or too cold or rainy) I walk for 30 minutes inside.
Otherwise 45 minutes outside on good weather days. My sugar levels are back to normal, A1C dropped from 7.5 to well under 5.5, my heart palpitations are gone, even my blood pressure is close to normal, so I do not take blood pressure meds daily. Even my knee and hip joint pain has disappeared. Walking is simple, cheap and doable by anyone.

elleng

(130,964 posts)
36. You're right, and I SHOULD do it.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:16 AM
Sep 2016

Used to, when working (in town,) but retired now, in the 'country,' I'm just lazy!

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
38. Blather?
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:06 AM
Sep 2016

What you posted was entirely consistent with what I said.

When you see "Pneumonia is usually caused by" - it means that it's the result of something else (i.e., a symptom) not the cause.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
41. Used to be called Walking Pneumonia
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:23 AM
Sep 2016

Very mild symptoms which is why it was called that. It does not leave a person bedridden. My Uncle had that in his 50's. Once they are on antibiotics for a period of time (48 hours?), they are no longer contagious. My family ate dinner over their house while he was still sick but on medication. My Aunt was an RN and she never would have allowed teenage me to be around him if he was contagious. She explained this to us.

It is very much the same as with strep. Once kids are on the antibiotics for a period of time, they can go back to school.

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