2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFBaggins
(26,748 posts)Without knowing what caused it, we don't actually know that it's treatable.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Pneumonia attacks those already weakened by tertiary health factors, such as weakened immune system, old age, poor nutrition, HIV positive, Parkinsons disease, lung tumors, Huntingtons disease, Muscular Dystrophy, etc.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So what do you know? It doesn't have to be causes by some horrible disease.
still_one
(92,217 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:48 AM - Edit history (1)
If it is an infection it could be viral or bacterial. Either form can be sever or not. If she is home, then they must have things will in hand
LisaL
(44,973 posts)still_one
(92,217 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)
she would be hospitalized, so there should be no issue
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So I wasn't getting any better. Then I got x-rays and antibiotics took care of it in no time.
still_one
(92,217 posts)I would think
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Millions of people have pneumonia and no other more serious disease. How ridiculous.
I am one of those people who had pneumonia and it wasn't caused by some horrible disease. I can't believe people here are spreading these ridiculous ideas around.
dubyadiprecession
(5,714 posts)and none of them had diseases that caused its occurrence. You can even say, it's curable.
still_one
(92,217 posts)Hillary's situation, but 50,000 people die from pneumonia a year. If caught and treated in time there is usually no problem, and it is treated quite effectly with anti-viral meds and antibiotics. The best prevention is through both flu and pneumonia vaccination.
I have no doubt that Hillary let herself get worn down, and became vulnerable. I also have no doubt that she will recover nicely and have no issues from this
golfguru
(4,987 posts)People with one or more of conditions listed are much more prone to get pneumonia.
These people can contract pneumonia without coming in contact with the germs from other person.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)When he got pneumonia every winter and still does. Pneumonia does NOT attack people with other diseases. People with those diseases are at a higher risk IF they get pneumonia.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)My daughter had pneumonia at age 19. She had none of those diseases either.
But the point is if one has those ailments, then chance of acquiring Pneumonia
are much higher.
Anyone can catch pneumonia with exposure to pneumococcus bacteria or get
viral pneumonia, and if their resistance is low due to stress, not enough sleep
or poor diet.
still_one
(92,217 posts)this, release exactly the issue and the treatment plan
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)I'm not sure how that connects to an allergic cough... but that's why they have doctors.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Parkinson's disease in which patient suddenly loses muscle control.
Swallowing requires many muscle groups to act in coordination.
Parkinson's patients can randomly cause malfunction of such muscles,
causing saliva to go down into the lungs. That will cause
coughing fits. Also saliva going into lungs can cause pneumonia due to
fluid accumulation..
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)...that this is very possibly aspiration pneumonia.
I have to admit that there's nothing in the doctor's statement that would contradict that... but I still think that it's premature at worst - and RW pipe dreams at best.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)If she had that it would be very obvious. You need to have 3 out of 4 specific features to be diagnosed, which she does not have.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)and I do not know that.
All I know she has had random coughing fits, loss of muscle control in legs today and now her doc says she has pneumonia. These are symptoms of Parkinson's. That much I know.
But I can not and you can not diagnose Parkinson's just based on symptoms.
Only her physician can diagnose that.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)To be diagnosed you MUST have Bradykinesia. If you don't have Bradykinesia you CANNOT have Parkinson's Disease...period. It's a requirement.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)I'm not saying that she has it. I'm saying that we aren't in a position to say that she obviously doesn't.
The video scared me. I've never seen dehydration do that, but that's no different from others claiming that they've had pneumonia and it's no big deal.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)He does not cough or have slurred speech. His hands and feet shake. His doctor says he is in the early stages and takes medication. Exposure to Agent Orange from Nam.
Michael J. Fox has had Parkinson's for quite some time now. Hillary's condition doesn't look either.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Coughing with pneumonia is quite normal.
still_one
(92,217 posts)will give antibiotics to prevent secondary infection, but regardless, everything is under control
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)My eldest son used to get it every flu season and had to get IV fluids. He did not have any health issues at all. The change of seasons just kicked his butt. When you are older it can be more serious...but it's still an infection.
still_one
(92,217 posts)NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)He didn't when he was little because they were not as readily available.
still_one
(92,217 posts)I was just curious. Thanks
elleng
(130,964 posts)known as alveoli.[2][3] Typical signs and symptoms include a varying severity and combination of productive or dry cough, chest pain, fever, and trouble breathing, depending on the underlying cause.[4]
Pneumonia is usually caused by infection with viruses or bacteria and less commonly by other microorganisms, certain medications and conditions such as autoimmune diseases.[2][5] Risk factors include other lung diseases such as cystic fibrosis, COPD, and asthma, diabetes, heart failure, a history of smoking, a poor ability to cough such as following a stroke, or a weak immune system.[6] Diagnosis is often based on the symptoms and physical examination. Chest X-ray, blood tests, and culture of the sputum may help confirm the diagnosis.[7] The disease may be classified by where it was acquired with community, hospital, or health care associated pneumonia.[8]'>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia
golfguru
(4,987 posts)I am 76 Y.O and never had pneumonia. May be my daily 2 mile walks keep
my lungs in good shape. I began the walking routine to fight border line Diabetes 2.
And it is working!!!!
elleng
(130,964 posts)I needed that. Wanted to cut through some of the blather, and wiki did it for me.
I'm a few years younger than you, have never had pneumonia either, and SHOULD follow your exercise routine.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)If weather is bad (too hot or too cold or rainy) I walk for 30 minutes inside.
Otherwise 45 minutes outside on good weather days. My sugar levels are back to normal, A1C dropped from 7.5 to well under 5.5, my heart palpitations are gone, even my blood pressure is close to normal, so I do not take blood pressure meds daily. Even my knee and hip joint pain has disappeared. Walking is simple, cheap and doable by anyone.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Used to, when working (in town,) but retired now, in the 'country,' I'm just lazy!
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)What you posted was entirely consistent with what I said.
When you see "Pneumonia is usually caused by" - it means that it's the result of something else (i.e., a symptom) not the cause.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)which afflict Trump and are far more dangerous.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)SunSeeker
(51,569 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Very mild symptoms which is why it was called that. It does not leave a person bedridden. My Uncle had that in his 50's. Once they are on antibiotics for a period of time (48 hours?), they are no longer contagious. My family ate dinner over their house while he was still sick but on medication. My Aunt was an RN and she never would have allowed teenage me to be around him if he was contagious. She explained this to us.
It is very much the same as with strep. Once kids are on the antibiotics for a period of time, they can go back to school.