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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:56 PM Sep 2016

"She couldn't afford to look weak. She's a woman."

Many men wil not understand this. But every mother who returned to work a month after having a baby -- because they didn't want to be accused of not carrying their weight -- will understand.

So will every woman who has ever pushed through any illness -- whether at home or in any workplace -- simply because other people are counting on her.

Hillary is old enough to remember a time when doctors routinely claimed that female physiology simply made women unfit for the Presidency. (So is Trump, and he still believes that.)

And now even some DUers are blaming her for not being completely "transparent" about her illness.

Of course she didn't announce her illness. Of course she tried to power through it. That's what most women would have done.

And most women -- who are still working in a "man's world" -- aren't going to blame her for making the same kind of decision we make all the time.

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Somebody asked the question on CNN “why didn’t she just take time off when she was diagnosed?” My wife, who was watching with me, piped up immediately: “She couldn’t afford to look weak. She’s a woman.”

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"She couldn't afford to look weak. She's a woman." (Original Post) pnwmom Sep 2016 OP
Truth. bettyellen Sep 2016 #1
I understand and it's not right. NWCorona Sep 2016 #2
I think she ALMOST did OK metroins Sep 2016 #3
The point is, not once in Obama's 8 years justiceischeap Sep 2016 #4
Right. It's beyond reason to think that neither Obama nor Bush pnwmom Sep 2016 #6
She had to be carried into a van metroins Sep 2016 #7
Yeah, it was. So they announced what was wrong with her. pnwmom Sep 2016 #9
Especially on the 9/11 anniversary. Beartracks Sep 2016 #10
Exactly!!!! She didn't want to overshadow the memorial pnwmom Sep 2016 #17
+ 1 n/t ejbr Sep 2016 #18
I agree with what you're saying metroins Sep 2016 #23
+1, I've made just this point in an OP... if there wasn't anything abilatory about her illness than uponit7771 Sep 2016 #8
They did announce it shortly after she left Chelsea's. pnwmom Sep 2016 #5
That's my understanding. You feel fine, right up until you don't. n/t Beartracks Sep 2016 #11
And sometimes it never feels that bad. Not bad enough pnwmom Sep 2016 #15
I've read multiple comments on multiple websites NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #12
I turned on the evening news and there was Andrea smirking about "transparency" Hekate Sep 2016 #13
What a dreadful snot that person is. pnwmom Sep 2016 #20
How on earth did we get here? Simple. pnwmom Sep 2016 #19
Bingo! n/t NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #24
Moms power through; they aren't allowed to get sick when the kids need them. Right? Hekate Sep 2016 #14
k & r n/t ejbr Sep 2016 #16
Thank you ellie Sep 2016 #21
You're welcome, ellie. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #22

metroins

(2,550 posts)
3. I think she ALMOST did OK
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:02 PM
Sep 2016

I think the mistake was, she went to Chelsea's (fine), came out and said she felt great. Only AFTER the video and the big hoopla did she then say it was pneumonia.

I think when she left Chelsea's she should've said she had pneumonia.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
4. The point is, not once in Obama's 8 years
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:08 PM
Sep 2016

or any other recent President I can recall, has had to issue a press release when they have a cold, viral infection or anything that isn't life threatening.

Why is it different for Clinton? Why is she being held to a different standard? When she left her daughters apartment she probably said the first thing that came to mind, that she felt fine.

The President and certainly a Presidential candidate doesn't get time off because they feel unwell. And guess what? Most mom's don't get to take time off or even make a big deal about feeling unwell.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
6. Right. It's beyond reason to think that neither Obama nor Bush
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:13 PM
Sep 2016

nor their election opponents ever experienced an infection while they were campaigning or in office.

And yet they never announced any illnesses, and no one accused them of not being transparent.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. Yeah, it was. So they announced what was wrong with her.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

But we shouldn't be blaming her for choosing to push through walking pneumonia, like most working people do if they can't afford to take time off.

And in this point in her campaign, she would NOT have wanted to take any time off.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
10. Especially on the 9/11 anniversary.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:20 PM
Sep 2016

Can you imagine the hue and cry if she had not attended?

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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
17. Exactly!!!! She didn't want to overshadow the memorial
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:55 PM
Sep 2016

with the furor that would have undoubtedly erupted if she hadn't attended.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
23. I agree with what you're saying
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 09:42 PM
Sep 2016

I'm hoping it is just pneumonia, I really do want her to win and feel she's right for this country.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
8. +1, I've made just this point in an OP... if there wasn't anything abilatory about her illness than
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:21 PM
Sep 2016

... the press doesn't need to know and I don't want to know.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
5. They did announce it shortly after she left Chelsea's.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:10 PM
Sep 2016

And she probably did feel fine when she left. Walking pneumonia is called walking pneumonia for a reason. Most of the time it's not that debilitating. In her case, it was hard to tell when her normal, allergic cough had transitioned into pneumonia.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
15. And sometimes it never feels that bad. Not bad enough
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:54 PM
Sep 2016

for someone like Hillary -- in the race of her life -- to take a break.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
12. I've read multiple comments on multiple websites
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:33 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

and I STILL don't understand the hue and cry about a person, male or female, who in the midst of a grueling campaign, feels ill and shows it. How on earth did we get here, that we can't understand someone temporarily feeling ill? Since when does someone in the press corps (hello, Andrea!) tells us that a politician running for office "owes" the press (particularly Andrea!) a heads-up on her medical condition? St. Ronald failed to notify the press about a truly serious condition that could have actually affected he country; not when he was a candidate but when he was President of the United States and what did we hear from Andrea and the rest of the press? Crickets.

BTW, if it seems like I'm targeting Andrea Mitchell/Mrs Greenspan in particular, that was deliberate. But most of the rest of the MSM is just as guilty.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
13. I turned on the evening news and there was Andrea smirking about "transparency"
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:51 PM
Sep 2016

and how "questions were being raised." It's pretty bad when Hekate yells at that hack to go eff herself and turns off the tv machine.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
20. What a dreadful snot that person is.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 09:00 PM
Sep 2016

Hekate would have been entirely justified if she had thrown her shoe at the TV -- though maybe that wouldn't have been kind to the shoe or the TV. . . .

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. How on earth did we get here? Simple.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:58 PM
Sep 2016

We have, for the first time in history, a woman with a chance at winning the Presidency. A woman who has been mocked for half a year as not having enough "stamina" to be President.

No man has ever been treated this way, and no man has ever been as transparent as the media is demanding of Hillary.

And meanwhile, Trump has gotten away with a joke of a doctor's note, accompanied by no test results. So it's not that everyone in this election is being treated differently. Just the only woman.

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