2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"She couldn't afford to look weak. She's a woman."
Many men wil not understand this. But every mother who returned to work a month after having a baby -- because they didn't want to be accused of not carrying their weight -- will understand.
So will every woman who has ever pushed through any illness -- whether at home or in any workplace -- simply because other people are counting on her.
Hillary is old enough to remember a time when doctors routinely claimed that female physiology simply made women unfit for the Presidency. (So is Trump, and he still believes that.)
And now even some DUers are blaming her for not being completely "transparent" about her illness.
Of course she didn't announce her illness. Of course she tried to power through it. That's what most women would have done.
And most women -- who are still working in a "man's world" -- aren't going to blame her for making the same kind of decision we make all the time.
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Somebody asked the question on CNN why didnt she just take time off when she was diagnosed? My wife, who was watching with me, piped up immediately: She couldnt afford to look weak. Shes a woman.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I think the mistake was, she went to Chelsea's (fine), came out and said she felt great. Only AFTER the video and the big hoopla did she then say it was pneumonia.
I think when she left Chelsea's she should've said she had pneumonia.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)or any other recent President I can recall, has had to issue a press release when they have a cold, viral infection or anything that isn't life threatening.
Why is it different for Clinton? Why is she being held to a different standard? When she left her daughters apartment she probably said the first thing that came to mind, that she felt fine.
The President and certainly a Presidential candidate doesn't get time off because they feel unwell. And guess what? Most mom's don't get to take time off or even make a big deal about feeling unwell.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)nor their election opponents ever experienced an infection while they were campaigning or in office.
And yet they never announced any illnesses, and no one accused them of not being transparent.
metroins
(2,550 posts)The video was pretty scary.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But we shouldn't be blaming her for choosing to push through walking pneumonia, like most working people do if they can't afford to take time off.
And in this point in her campaign, she would NOT have wanted to take any time off.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)Can you imagine the hue and cry if she had not attended?
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pnwmom
(108,980 posts)with the furor that would have undoubtedly erupted if she hadn't attended.
metroins
(2,550 posts)I'm hoping it is just pneumonia, I really do want her to win and feel she's right for this country.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... the press doesn't need to know and I don't want to know.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)And she probably did feel fine when she left. Walking pneumonia is called walking pneumonia for a reason. Most of the time it's not that debilitating. In her case, it was hard to tell when her normal, allergic cough had transitioned into pneumonia.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)for someone like Hillary -- in the race of her life -- to take a break.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)
and I STILL don't understand the hue and cry about a person, male or female, who in the midst of a grueling campaign, feels ill and shows it. How on earth did we get here, that we can't understand someone temporarily feeling ill? Since when does someone in the press corps (hello, Andrea!) tells us that a politician running for office "owes" the press (particularly Andrea!) a heads-up on her medical condition? St. Ronald failed to notify the press about a truly serious condition that could have actually affected he country; not when he was a candidate but when he was President of the United States and what did we hear from Andrea and the rest of the press? Crickets.
BTW, if it seems like I'm targeting Andrea Mitchell/Mrs Greenspan in particular, that was deliberate. But most of the rest of the MSM is just as guilty.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)and how "questions were being raised." It's pretty bad when Hekate yells at that hack to go eff herself and turns off the tv machine.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Hekate would have been entirely justified if she had thrown her shoe at the TV -- though maybe that wouldn't have been kind to the shoe or the TV. . . .
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)We have, for the first time in history, a woman with a chance at winning the Presidency. A woman who has been mocked for half a year as not having enough "stamina" to be President.
No man has ever been treated this way, and no man has ever been as transparent as the media is demanding of Hillary.
And meanwhile, Trump has gotten away with a joke of a doctor's note, accompanied by no test results. So it's not that everyone in this election is being treated differently. Just the only woman.