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7worldtrade

(85 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:08 PM Sep 2016

I am "terrified" that Trump will be our President

That is what my wife and pretty much everyone I know and pretty much any "mainstream" republican says. I am 52 years old, and I cannot recall any election in my lifetime when anyone was terrified at the prospect that the nominee of the other party could literally change life as we know it. That's why I believe he will not be President. People going into the voting booth will literally have to decide whether they want to gamble with their lives and the lives of their children and grandchildren. For full disclosure, I voted for Hillary in NJ and always believed she would be a great President. I will work my tail off to elect Hillary, because I believe she will be a great President.

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I am "terrified" that Trump will be our President (Original Post) 7worldtrade Sep 2016 OP
Millennials are fearless, not even a President Trump scares them BlueStateLib Sep 2016 #1
LOL! Cheers. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #22
Scares me too!!!!!! onecent Sep 2016 #2
Everyone should be terrified, this is Nuremberg Germany circa 1930 with orange clown makeup Snake Plissken Sep 2016 #3
I'm not. bigwillq Sep 2016 #4
And the prospect of a one-party state does not concern you? You KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #6
I doubt very much that there will ever be a one-party state, on any side bigwillq Sep 2016 #12
By one-party state, i mean a single party controls all 3 branches of government under KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #21
Bravo!! Kilgore Sep 2016 #15
Trump is a blow hard jimlup Sep 2016 #5
Except Trump's program calla for ethnic cleansing. - nt KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #7
Right - I agree that that part of him is frightening jimlup Sep 2016 #8
Almost exactly what the Germa Communist Party said in KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #10
Maybe you are right jimlup Sep 2016 #11
Hi jimlup. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #23
Yes.. jimlup Sep 2016 #32
Even if he is 'too incompetent" Skidmore Sep 2016 #29
I'm getting really disgusted that Dems need to be reminded of that- and how dangerous he and Pence bettyellen Sep 2016 #13
Some threads are for venting. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #24
I think they are JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #28
Yes! Thank you. Skidmore Sep 2016 #30
You greatly underestimate what Trump could do. radius777 Sep 2016 #9
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #25
Thank you. A real threat to millions, if given power. nt Skidmore Sep 2016 #31
People were terrified of Goldwater. Lifelong Protester Sep 2016 #14
Ironically, Goldwater would be liberal by today's standards... VOX Sep 2016 #16
Thus my last line. He wouldn't stand a chance today. Lifelong Protester Sep 2016 #17
Excellent. Cheers! Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #26
Johnson had a comfortable lead over Goldwater in September '64... Silent3 Sep 2016 #18
Exactly. Goldwater was a respected senator radius777 Sep 2016 #19
I blame the current situation on the media far more than on Clinton's campaign Silent3 Sep 2016 #20
Very sad state of affairs indeed. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #27

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
3. Everyone should be terrified, this is Nuremberg Germany circa 1930 with orange clown makeup
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:32 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is a buffoon who will allow Putin to move in and control Eastern Europe before he even understands what is happening while he is catfighting on twitter and driving us into bankruptcy. He is the perfect idiot to be manipulated by outside influences who want to see the United States fail.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
4. I'm not.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:36 PM
Sep 2016

I don't think he will be, and I want Hillary to be president over Trump any day of the week.

But I am really never "terrified" about any politician. We had some bad ones, for sure, and we will probably have some bad ones again. That's politics. That's the system. That's democracy.

I will continue to vote for DEMs, but I can only control so much.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
6. And the prospect of a one-party state does not concern you? You
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:59 PM
Sep 2016

are aware, I trust, that a one-party state could render the Constitution little more than a dead letter?

All leftists must hope -- and work -- for the best but plan for the worst. To do otherwise is to ignore the lessons of history.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
21. By one-party state, i mean a single party controls all 3 branches of government under
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:14 PM
Sep 2016

the leadership of a charismatic figurehead. Say goodbye to checks and balances and hello to absolute tyranny.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
5. Trump is a blow hard
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:52 PM
Sep 2016

He talks a big talk but has no substance. He's a snake oil salesman.

In the event that he is actually elected, God forbid, he'd be a nothing. He would "delegate" to others who would essentially be the neocons all over again so we'd have the same administration in place as the Bush crime cartel. It would be awful and revolting but we survived Bush though not without deep costs to our national security and economy.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
8. Right - I agree that that part of him is frightening
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:18 PM
Sep 2016

but my suspicion is that it would be a racist figurehead presidency so all of the racists in the country would feel more empowered but little of his agenda is even vaguely realistic because I don't think he can actually do his shit.

Don't get me wrong - Trump would be a disaster. But I claim he's too incompetent to actually do anything about his hate.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
10. Almost exactly what the Germa Communist Party said in
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:21 PM
Sep 2016

1932 in referring to Herr Hitler as the "icebreaker" who would bring about the proletarian revolution.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
23. Hi jimlup.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sep 2016

A year ago, I would have agreed.

These creatures are serious about a "revolt" and "blood shed". DEAD EFFING SERIOUS!

If not a gun, carry a knife. If not a knife, carry a steel pipe. If not a steel pipe, carry pepper spray. If not pepper spray, learn to throw a punch - at the very least.

Most sincerely, Cheers.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
29. Even if he is 'too incompetent"
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:47 PM
Sep 2016

it doesn't mean that those who follow him won't feel empowered to actualize their hatred. We have already seen many acts of violence from them and have seen him willing to stand by and cheer them on. Sometimes, depending on the are in which such acts occur, the perpetrators are not arrested. Are you in one of the groups he has pointed to as being particularly unworthy to be American? If you are, you should be concerned. Even if you aren't, you should still be concerned for those who are.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. I'm getting really disgusted that Dems need to be reminded of that- and how dangerous he and Pence
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:49 PM
Sep 2016

Are for women. WTF people? Are you all that self involved? Ugh.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
24. Some threads are for venting.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:32 PM
Sep 2016

I need to vent and DU is a great place for this. I enjoy reading the reminders. Respectfully - please allow those of us to vent. Cheers.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
9. You greatly underestimate what Trump could do.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:20 PM
Sep 2016

The POTUS is the most powerful person in the world, commander-in-chief of the most powerful military in human history, with the nuclear codes at his disposal. There are many things he could do (foreign and domestically) that don't require the approval of congress or anyone else.

Trump, fundamentally is a dictatorial ethno-nationalist/fascist whose policies could easily trigger a global economic meltdown, widespread abuse and murder of minorities/women/gays, religous persecution of Jews and Muslims, nativist policies that would deport even natural born citizens ("anchor babies&quot , shred the 1st amendment (is already suing several blogs and publications for stories about Melania) and the rest of the Constitution, sell/trade our national secrets to dictators like Putin.

And that would just be the beginning of it all.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
14. People were terrified of Goldwater.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:04 PM
Sep 2016

And he didn't become president, IIRC.

He freaked people out. He was wildly extreme. He couldn't even get his foot in the door of today's GOP.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
16. Ironically, Goldwater would be liberal by today's standards...
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:15 PM
Sep 2016

His wife was a founding member of Planned Parenthood in AZ.

And he hated the hyper-religious bent the GOP was headed for:

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

Silent3

(15,259 posts)
18. Johnson had a comfortable lead over Goldwater in September '64...
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:07 AM
Sep 2016

...and Goldwater went on to lose by what was then the largest margin in history.

We are not so clearly out of the woods yet where Trump is concerned. He's got a much better shot than Goldwater had even though Goldwater wasn't anywhere near as scary as Trump.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. Exactly. Goldwater was a respected senator
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:30 AM
Sep 2016

with a few nutty ideas. Trump is a dictatorial fascist whose views are at odds with the Consitution and with Western values.

And since H/Dems have not run a strong campaign, Trump has a much better shot that he should have.

Silent3

(15,259 posts)
20. I blame the current situation on the media far more than on Clinton's campaign
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:57 AM
Sep 2016

While I guess you can imagine that there's something better Clinton and the Democrats could be doing to fight the media's false balance and false equivalencies and inflexible narratives and their desire to keep the election a horse race, I sure don't know myself what that something might be.

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