2016 Postmortem

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts) Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:57 AM Sep 2016

Wait, I totally missed this. Citizens United is a charity?!?

To which the Trump Foundation/Money Laundering Slushfund donated to in order to fight the NY Attorney General investigating Trump University?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295178-trump-foundation-gave-100k-to-conservative-group-suing-ny

Dear Lord....

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Wait, I totally missed this. Citizens United is a charity?!? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 OP

Try the first sentence of the Supreme Court majority opinion jberryhill Sep 2016 #1

Yeah, but do they get any special status as a charitable corporation? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #2

What do you mean by "special status"? jberryhill Sep 2016 #4

I believe charties fall under 501(c)(3). Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #5

Two major differences with 501(c)(3)'s Princess Turandot Sep 2016 #6

I just read an article this morning stating that the Repub Congressional Freedom goons are now misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #3

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)

1. Try the first sentence of the Supreme Court majority opinion

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:09 AM

Sep 2016

You see, this information was hidden from you by burying it in first sentence of the opinion which, after the introduction is:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/558/08-205/opinion.html

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Citizens United is a nonprofit corporation.
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I mean, it's the first sentence.

How far did you read it?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)

2. Yeah, but do they get any special status as a charitable corporation?

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:12 AM

Sep 2016

As I understand, all charities are non-profits, but not all non-profits are charities.

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)

4. What do you mean by "special status"?

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:46 AM

Sep 2016

That could mean any number of things.

Citizen's United is a 501(c)4 organization. Is that "special" for the purpose of your question?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)

5. I believe charties fall under 501(c)(3).

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:50 AM

Sep 2016

501(c)(4) are considered "social welfare organizations"

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)

6. Two major differences with 501(c)(3)'s

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:09 PM

Sep 2016

1)Donations to 501(c)(4) entities *are not* tax deductible to the donor, and

2)501(c)(4) entities *are* allowed to engage in all kinds of lobbying (i.e. engage in political activity, endorse or oppose political candidates, or donate money or time to political campaigns.)

The term 'charitable' is not used by the IRS in connection with 501(c)(4)s. They refer to the Citizen United kind as tax-exempt social welfare organizations.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

3. I just read an article this morning stating that the Repub Congressional Freedom goons are now

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:35 AM

Sep 2016

..trying to drop the lawsuit filed by CU against NY ag & instead open a hearing & investigate Schneiderman & another (don't recall who).

Its driving me nuts trying to find that article.
Will post here as soon as I locate it.

The target has been put squarely on Schneiderman. But isn't that how a criminal org operates?
This particular subject is going to get really nasty.

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