2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe thing about Trump's 'letter from his doctor' is, Trump and his doctor have zero credibility
I don't believe a single thing that Trump says, or presents as being documentation of his health, physical or mental. Zero credibility. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. I can't even imagine what it would take for me to believe it is not a self-serving piece of concocted and well paid for fiction. Harumph!!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I think he told his staff to make a report that was believable for a guy his age, not too glowing, but just short of a super-hero hunk. Oh, and include testosterone levels that's off the charts too! Rachel noted tonight that his height has always been 6' 2" , until today. Now he's 6'3"! She speculated maybe he's still growing! But, what that added inch does is change his BMI from obese down to overweight. It's all bullshit typical for smarmy con man like him.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)and they manipulated BOTH the height and the weight to keep him this side of obese.
rachel reporting that he has been described many times 6'2", but the letter said 6'3". which moves the needle to the other side of the bmi dial. and that weight is fersher a lie.
procon
(15,805 posts)Trump lied and said all his tests were done last week, but then Dr. Oz reads that the tests are from 2013... 3 years ago! The cover letter from Dr. Bornstein (who is already on record saying he will do anything Trump wants) might be dated September 13, 2016, but the results aren't from any current tests. Even if he did get a real physical last week, the results must have been so bad he was afraid to make them public so he swapped them for old tests, and he got away with it!
TRUMP: I have really no problem in doing it. I have it right here. Should I do it? I don't care.
[applause]
It's two letters. One is the report, and the other is from Lenox Hill hospital.
OZ: May I see them? These are the reports from --
TRUMP: Those were all the tests just done last week.
OZ: September 13, 2016. Again, from Dr. Bornstein. It says Im going to say this is a first of all, thank you for sharing this. This is a pretty comprehensive -- can I read it to you real quickly, and Ill try to quickly interpret it?
TRUMP: Sure.
OZ: Blood sugar, 99. And C-reactive protein also low. Your liver function, your thyroid functional is all normal. You had a colonoscopy performed July 10, 2013, which was normal with no polyps. Calcium score and your heart, 2013, also was low at 98. Oh my goodness. EKG chest x-ray on April 14 was normal. A normal echocardiogram was done two years ago. And your testosterones 441, which is actually -- it's good. Its good.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/15/donald-trumps-visit-with-dr-oz-was-just-as-amazing-as-you-though-it-would-be/
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)if trump actually had bloodwork last week it was old or fake
Don Must have something on the good doctor or its like a mob thing ....
tavernier
(12,392 posts)Seriously, if he was that height and weight that he states, he would not look as fat as he does. Initially yesterday it was reported that his weight was 267, and that makes far more sense for his REAL height of 6'2" (which is probably fudged as well).
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)that Donald rarely speaks the truth...so the likelihood of any of this medical data actually belonging to him is extremely low.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)packed three blank prescription pads and went to Burning Man last week.
#TheVeryBestPeople
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)They continue to give him credence.
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KT2000
(20,584 posts)was the doctor on call to vouch for tump's health when he applied for loans and life insurance.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)and it has been reported--even in his own books--that he is 6 foot 2, not 6 foot 3--clearly the "doctor" wanted to make sure his BMI did not put him into the "obese" category, from merely overweight. If you do the calculation, he makes it--just barely if he is 6'3.
And as one who has had to struggle with weight loss and weight maintenance throughout life, I am definitely not fat shaming.
Justice
(7,188 posts)I looked up athletes whose weight is reported - David Ortiz for example is 6'2" and weighes 230. No way is Trump 236.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)At his age and no medications except a statin drug for his cholesterol, I find it highly unlikely that his blood pressure at age 70 would be completely normal....given his weight and lifestyle. Likewise his blood sugar seemed off....for the same reasons the B/P reading seemed unbelievable. In recent years the standards for that have changed and at 99 he would be right at the cutoff to have further investigation of his blood sugar. At 100 or above, his doctor should suggest a glucose tolerance test. So if they report it at 99, he seems healthier and wouldn't need further tests. I am not buying any of these test results and particularly since they are three years old....if they are accurate.
As for the testosterone being....high......isn't that fitting for a man who thinks he is god's gift to women?? Gotta keep up the illusion that The Donald is still a stud! Anyone who thinks they didn't fudge these numbers is in La La Land.
Dr. Hippy-dippy could have indeed done a physical of Trump last week. Looked him over, declared him fit as a fiddle and used the 2013 data to give his assessment. Nothing in the report indicates he did anything different. He just played around with the numbers and facts to please Trump. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Trump (or one of his surrogates) stood over his shoulder and dictated the report they wanted.