2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOn CNN now: Trump campaign releases statement admitting Obama was born in the U.S.
(updated) This is not coming from Trump's mouth.
Trump is taking credit (for lack of a better word) for
forcing Barack Obama to release his birth certificate.
He says he did a "great service" to the country.
EDIT: link now available
Source: CNN
By Daniella Diaz, CNN
Updated 0232 GMT (1032 HKT) September 16, 2016
Washington (CNN) - Donald Trump's campaign on Thursday said he believes President Barack Obama was born in the US, a major reversal from a line of attack he launched five years ago.
"In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate. Mr. Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure to the issue that Hillary Clinton and her team first raised," Trump spokesman Jason Miller said in a statement.
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Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Trump himself has to say it into a microphone.
calimary
(81,322 posts)He stirred it up like gangbusters for months. Opened a real Pandora's Box that hasn't subsided completely to this day. He needs to flat-out SAY THE WORDS. Admit he made a mistake. Adding an apology would be nice, too. But I'm not holding my breath for any of it. He won't admit he was wrong. He can't. He's got an ego to protect.
If he'd believed it, he would have come out with it AGES ago. His refusal to discuss it now, at all, with anybody, and his not wanting to deal with it strongly suggests to me that he still believes President Obama is an illegitimate President and wasn't born here. He just knows how badly that would impact his campaign. Better to pretend it away for awhile and hope the press gets tired of asking about it. Hey, if you gin up another controversy or pull somebody else's chain or say something else completely outrageous or incomprehensible, that'll distract well enough, anyway.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)He doesn't say it himself, and the statement smells like a rotten piece of shit. What a degrading, racist piece of SHIT the guy is.
Thanking himself for providing such a great "service" to the country by making the president release his birth certificate. What a total scumbag. Pure Trump. He belongs in a nuthouse.
Now get out there and donate, canvass, make calls, and defeat this ASSHOLE.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)it means nothing.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)This is not from Trump himself
The claim that Clinton was behind birthism is simply false
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)the way she speaks. It is a disgusting and vile comment. Just like the person it comes from.
radius777
(3,635 posts)There was a memo supposedly floating around within her campaign (which may or may not be authentic) written ostensibly by Mark Penn, which proposed a strategy of contrasting Hillary's traditional middle American roots with Obama's non-traditional Hawaiian upbringing. Hardball politics, sure, but it never questioned his birth certificate or whether he was born in America. And it its not something that came from Hillary herself, and there is no evidence she even knew about it.
Contrast that to Trump, who is Birther in Chief, who went on a crusade to humiliate the first black president as non-American, non-Christian, etc.
Lest we forget that aside from the birther stuff, Trump also questioned Obama's entire existence, including his college transcripts, wondering how such a 'mediocre student' could get into ivy league schools, etc.
Pure white nationalism and nativism.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)Taking credit for a debunked racist meme and lying that it originated with Hillary Clinton is not a good look.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)This claim is simply false https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/
The Pinocchio Test
Theres no evidence to support Trumps repeated claim that Clinton started the birther movement and was one of the first to question Obamas birth certificate. He could blame the actions of Clintons supporters during the 2008 primary or say the rumor has some Democratic roots. But theres no evidence that she or her campaign questioned his birth certificate or his citizenship. Further, the campaign denounced isolated instances of Clintons staffers questioning whether Obama was Muslim.
Later in the in the same CNN interview, Wolf Blitzer asked Trump about his supporters anti-Semitic attacks and death threats against Julia Ioffe for her profile of Melania Trump in GQ. Trump repeatedly distanced himself from the actions of this group of supporters: I dont know anything about that. I know nothing about it. Youll have to talk to them about it. I dont have a message to the fans.
If Trump doesnt believe in being held accountable for the actions of his supporters, perhaps he should consider the same standard for his political opponents. Glass houses, and all that.
Four Pinocchios
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)He's going to make them, like his surrogates, look like fools.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Papers please!!!!
Like we were all victimized!
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)the bathroom to get the statement issued.
By morning he'll be back to his birther bullshit, full throttle.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I want the moderator to ask what were the results of Trump's investigation into his citizenship.
O'Malley said it best when he called Trump a "carnival barker
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)well after President Obama released his birth certificate. Was that also part of his "great service" to the nation?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)... what was this "great service" Trump imagines he performed for us?
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HipChick
(25,485 posts)duncang
(1,907 posts)The ugly incident wasn't that he got a U.S. citizen to admit and show he was born in the U.S.A.. It was him being ugly. All the ugly strictly belongs and hangs around dipshit donnie's neck. He wore it as a badge of honor. He reviled in it. He was the one who cultivated and helped it grow. He was the one who filled that basket.
Satch59
(1,353 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:32 AM - Edit history (1)
Every sentence makes my blood boil... And how can CNN claim this is saying Trump finally admits it... It's so backhanded and disgusting...
OMG...it's a fucking doubling down of being a birther...
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Repeatedly
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)we'll admit he was born here, but we still won.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)who happens to be the President of the United States
is at his racist core...
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)I've agreed with that all along.
My post was meant to be a little tongue in cheek quote of the Trump campaign press release.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)in no way, shape, or form.
That would be undeplorable.
NBachers
(17,120 posts)greyl
(22,990 posts)the piece of orange shit was still harping on it years later, claiming he sent an investigative team to Hawaii, and Tweeting about a death as if it were an Obama hit.
Trump, after the Birth Certificate release: "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."
"How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obamas birth certificate died in plane crash today. All others lived."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/us/politics/donald-trump-birther-obama.html
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)but now his mindless followers may finally stop saying it.
calimary
(81,322 posts)And there WILL be ponies under all that horse shit! Believe me! Ponies for EVERYBODY! FLYING ponies, even! This I can tell you.
catbyte
(34,403 posts)cowardly piece of shit can't even say it.
Fuck off, donald.
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)tirebiter
(2,538 posts)Donald Trump isnt backing down from perpetuating theories that President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen, a conspiracy hes fueled for years.
In an interview with the Washington Posts Robert Costa published Thursday evening, Trump refused to say whether he believes Obama was born in the U.S.